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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]1. Alabama 323 [8,279 Freshmen, 3.9%] 2. Florida 297 [6,612 Freshmen 4.4%] 3. USC 262 [3,402 Freshmen, 7.7%] 4. Purdue 260 [9,353 Freshmen, 2.7%] 5. UT Dallas 232 [4,218 Freshmen, 5.5%] 6. Texas A&M 219 [12,419 Freshmen, 1.7%] 7. Vanderbilt 185 [1,624 Freshmen, 11.3%] 8. Harvard 160 [1,644 Freshmen, 9.7%] 9. MIT 154 [1,136 Freshmen, 13.5%] 10. Penn 147 [2,415 Freshmen, 6%] 11. UMD 144 [5,821 Freshmen, 2.5%] 12. Stanford 129 [1,733 Freshmen, 7.4%] 13. Yale 127 [1,554 Freshmen, 8%] 14. Princeton 116 [1,497 Freshmen, 7.7%] 15. Northeastern 97 [2,519 Freshmen, 3.9%] 16. Duke 94 [1,744 Freshmen, 5.3%] 17. UC Berkeley 93 [6,707 Freshmen, 1.4%] 18. Georgia Tech 90 [3,646 Freshmen, 2.5%] 19. UCF 85 [7,512 Freshmen, 1.1%] 20. UT Austin 85 [9,109 Freshmen, .9%] 21. Oklahoma 84 22. Minnesota 79 23. BU 77 [3,635 Freshmen, 2.1%] 24. UCLA 77 [6,461 Freshmen, 1.2%] 25. USF 77 [6,773 Freshmen, 1.1%] 26. Michigan 76 [7,050 Freshmen, 1%] 27. Columbia 75 [1,522 Freshmen, 4.9%] 28. Northwestern 75 [2,038 Freshmen, 3.7%] 29. Brown 69 [1,717 Freshmen, 4%] 30. Emory 67 [1,424 Freshmen, 4.7%] 31. Indiana 67 [9,736 Freshmen, .7%] 32. Arizona 65 [9,069 Freshmen, .7%] 33. Tufts 63 [1,694 Freshmen, 3.7%] 34. ASU 62 [10,022 Freshmen, .6%] 35. Georgia 60 [6,250 Freshmen, 1%] 36. BYU 59 [5,567 Freshmen, 1%] 37. Georgetown 56 [1,603 Freshmen, 3.5%] 38. Case Western 55 [1,553 Freshmen, 3.5%] 39. Cornell 54 [3,491 Freshmen, 1.5%] 40. Rice 51 [1,201 Freshmen, 4.3%] 41. Dartmouth 49 [1,124 Freshmen, 4.4%] 42. Michigan State 49 [9,829 Freshmen .5%] 43. Johns Hopkins 48 [1,406 Freshmen 3.4%] 44. UChicago 48 [2,053 Freshmen, 2.3%] 45. Carnegie Mellon 47 [1,716 Freshmen, 2.7%] 46. Clemson 45 [4,588 Freshmen, .99%] 47. Missouri 45 [4,983 Freshmen, .9%] 48. NYU 44 [6,184 Freshmen, .7%] 49. Miss State 43 [3,367 Freshmen, 1.2%] 50. Rutgers 43 [7,780 Freshmen, .5%] 51. UNC 40 [4,689 Freshmen, .8%] 52. Illinois 39 [8,297 Freshmen, .5%] 53. Oklahoma State 36 [4,643 Freshmen, .7%] 54. Iowa State 35 55. UVA 35 [4,020 Freshmen, .9%][/quote] So much for only finding “intellectual equals” at expensive, selective privates. [/quote] Yes and no. Important to remember how the process works. In a nutshell, kids take the PSAT, get high scores -> in pool. -> Combination of confirming score on the SAT, GPA, & paperwork -> NMSF. Kids who then get scholarships become NMF. Scholarships can come from many different sources. But some schools automatically give scholarships to every NMSF that attends (Alabama, Florida, USC...) and some schools do not; children with scholarships at e.g. Harvard have been selected more randomly. To better see the population of elite students, you want to see the NMSF numbers, and those aren't available, just the ones for NMF. Thus the better option would be to scale up places where NMF isn't automatic by multiplying by ~3x (*), so the true number of intellectual powerhouses at Harvard is more likely 480+. Situation is slightly more complicated because the cut-offs for NMSF are by state or territory; it takes a noticeably higher cut-off to become NMSF in Virginia vs Missouri. Further, states where the ACT is popular have misleadingly low numbers at their universities; there are ultra-high performing kids in Tennessee who wind up not taking the SAT (or at least not studying particularly hard for it), because they're in an ACT-centric universe. Granted, these ultra-high-performing Tennesseeans are much, much more likely to take the SAT than Joe Average, but there still are kids who are missed, and therefore you can probably factor up somewhat the numbers in universities of particular appeal to students from non-SAT states. (*) I sat down to calculate this a while ago and don't remember my results, so this is handwavey. Number's probably a bit higher.[/quote]
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