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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][size=9] [/size][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Older men don't seem motivated to take care of themselves and seem to think this is attractive somehow.[/quote]

Where are all of these well-maintained older women?  The way some of you sound it's like most cities are crawling full of Gabrielle Unions and Salma Hayeks.

Or maybe find a stock internet photo of what you're seeing out there.  Cuz I'm not seeing it.  [/quote]

A well maintained older woman in her 40-early 50s would look like a late 30s woman. You won’t realize the true age. 
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Lisa Ling is 51.  No one is mistaking her for a late 30s woman.  Constance Wu is 43 and could pass for 35.  Ali Wong looks about her age.  [/quote]

Great. Can dcum guess the age of the pictured woman ?

https://imgur.com/a/CoEzipi

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I’d say 50-55. [/quote]

She's 70 on all photos (she also wears no makeup or hair style/dye). Many posters correctly guessed her age as they knew it was someone's mom. Indeed, the neck, toes and bunions gave up her late 60s-70s. But in real life when my mom goes out wearing makeup, shoes and a turtle neck, she's mistaken for mid 50s woman 90% of the time. She never had any procedures done, unlike the cited celebrities above.

I posted her photos to show that even at 70 any woman can be in a very decent shape, better than many others at 50. My mom goes to gym every other day since her mid 40s and maintains 22-23 BMI. She's 73 now and  still doesn't have jawls (and PPs above claimed anyone gets them in late 40s).

It is not true that all women look their age. A lot of women and men have youthful genes and healthy lifestyle, and can easily look 10-15 years younger. Nowadays a woman in her 40-50s can easily use cosmetic procedures and makeup to look 10-15 years younger. Nobody really knows how to infer age

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Lady, you are very invested in this narrative. You basically said, my mother hides and covers up evidence of her aging and then people can’t tell her age. [/quote]

At least one poster thought he was in her 50s based on no make-up photos. The point is if the woman/man maintains a healthy weight/lifestyle, women have more options than men to look way younger than their actual age and remain sexually attractive longer. Men don't use cosmetics, they loose hair, don't use pedicure etc, so they are less attractive as they age. [/quote]

You dismiss all the posters who said older and pick the one convenient to your claim. The reason I know your mother is not 50-55 is because I am 51. People tell me I look young for my age all the time, but the difference is that I don’t get high on my own supply. (Also everyone still thinks Golden Girls and don’t know what modern aging looks like).  I look like a 51 year old with a good HHI who prioritizes exercise, medical care, and reasonable portions, and lives in an urban center in the first world.

There is zero chance that your mother and I stand next to each other and people think we’re peers. [/quote]

Because you probably look like youthful, like  an average low 40s US woman. If you compare my mom to the photos of "average US 50s women" you'll see why people often think she's mid 50s.

And yes, my point is that according to my observations, women who take care of their bodies on average age more gracefully than men. Yes, women's hair are thinner at 60, but men don't even have hair by that point! No matter how much he exercises, he would be bolding. And not all women have jawls by late 40s. People have a narrative and perception of 40-50s women looking like Golden Girls cast actresses. No, they actually more and more are looking like Salma Hayek, using sports and cosmetic enhancements to their benefit.

Women now age like a good wine, and men (at least in my observation at a very expensive gym) age worse. [/quote]

You are making my point with your celebrity examples. People don’t know what 50 looks like. So if you look younger than a Golden Girl people think you are young for your age. But that’s not at all what modern first world aging looks like (and that’s even before we get to the hair/bone changes that others have posted about).

Also the photos of the women in the “average 50 year old” pictures were taken much closer up to their face. Your mother’s face was at a distance. How can you not see these differences?[/quote]

Still, in real life when she wears make up men who are in their 50-60s hit on her all the time as they think she's in her 50s. Maybe you can see a difference as you are taking a good care of your skin, probably look youthful and know what a well maintained woman in her 50s look like. But men in their 50-60s really don't know crap
But leaving my mother aside, there are many actresses who look amazing and very youthful in their late 50s and I personally would think they are early to mid 40s if I met them in real life: [b]Halle Berry, Salma Hayek[/b], for example.[/quote]

They are both gorgeous women who look every bit of 58.  [/quote]

No, they don't. You are just trying to prove your point that everyone looks their own age. No they look much, much younger than an average US 58 yo woman. See an AI generated "typical US 58 yo" here:

https://www.shutterstock.com/image-generated/realistic-portrait-58yearold-french-woman-soft-2451471743[/quote]

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