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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][size=9] [/size][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Older men don't seem motivated to take care of themselves and seem to think this is attractive somehow.[/quote]

Where are all of these well-maintained older women?  The way some of you sound it's like most cities are crawling full of Gabrielle Unions and Salma Hayeks.

Or maybe find a stock internet photo of what you're seeing out there.  Cuz I'm not seeing it.  [/quote]

A well maintained older woman in her 40-early 50s would look like a late 30s woman. You won’t realize the true age. 
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Lisa Ling is 51.  No one is mistaking her for a late 30s woman.  Constance Wu is 43 and could pass for 35.  Ali Wong looks about her age.  [/quote]

Great. Can dcum guess the age of the pictured woman ?

https://imgur.com/a/CoEzipi

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I’d say 50-55. [/quote]

She's 70 on all photos (she also wears no makeup or hair style/dye). Many posters correctly guessed her age as they knew it was someone's mom. Indeed, the neck, toes and bunions gave up her late 60s-70s. But in real life when my mom goes out wearing makeup, shoes and a turtle neck, she's mistaken for mid 50s woman 90% of the time. She never had any procedures done, unlike the cited celebrities above.

I posted her photos to show that even at 70 any woman can be in a very decent shape, better than many others at 50. My mom goes to gym every other day since her mid 40s and maintains 22-23 BMI. She's 73 now and  still doesn't have jawls (and PPs above claimed anyone gets them in late 40s).

It is not true that all women look their age. A lot of women and men have youthful genes and healthy lifestyle, and can easily look 10-15 years younger. Nowadays a woman in her 40-50s can easily use cosmetic procedures and makeup to look 10-15 years younger. Nobody really knows how to infer age

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This is quite simply not true.

"As we grow older, our facial bones including our eye sockets, nose and upper jaw continue to change. For example, our eye sockets enlarge, and the angle of the bones beneath our eyebrows decreases which could contribute to the formation of frown lines on our foreheads, "crow's feet" at the corners of our eyes and droopy lower eyelids, the researchers say. Although these changes occurred in both sexes, many occurred earlier in women between young and middle age. In men, most of the changes occurred between middle age and old age."

https://www.livescience.com/35332-face-bones-aging-110104.html[/quote]

We are talking about different things. Yes, everyone knows men loose their bone and muscular density slower than women, thanks to testosterone. But at the same time, women who exercise or/are on HRT that includes testosterone, are able to maintain their muscular and bone density well into 60s. Also women have many more cosmetic procedures (and the will to use these procedures to address aging concerns) than men. The modern medicine made huge steps forward in hormone therapy, sports medicine and cosmetic procedures. Men have little desire to maintain their looks: they think it's forgiving not to go to the dentist, not to have pedicure, to have a belly etc. DMV is a city of obese law partners (when I was dating in DC). All these men making $2m+ a year were overweight and still thought they could date me (a very fit athletic woman). When women have money they invest it in their looks.When men get money, they spend it on women, food, wine and addictions. [/quote]

That's a lot of words to say that you can't fool people into thinking you are 10-15 years younger than your actual age.  [/quote]

You can't fool those who are experts on skin care or sports themselves, but you absolutely can the 90% "average" people somewhere in Midwest. [/quote]

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