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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I'm a 30 year professor at a major university. I can say two things with confidence:
1) We are not fond of AP courses.  Freshman admits coming in with AP courses can't think for themselves.  The HS AP courses teach to the test rather than actual teach.  Bad news.
2) See no difference or even trending difference between Public School or Private School admits on the whole.  What we do see is that students who hold a job during high school (not just summer jobs) do very well!  They are self starters, great at managing their time, organized, pro-active, and respectfully assertive. [/quote]

I call BS. Your over generalizations suggest more than a little mendacity.

Major universities have freshman classes in the thousands. There’s no way you’d know enough of them sufficiently well to conclude that they can’t think for themselves because of the AP courses they took. :roll:

Independent thinking does not go downhill because of an AP course or even a slew of AP courses but because of bad teaching overall.

:mrgreen:APs are taught differently at different schools. The mindless teach-to-the-test approach is typical of public high schools. From experience, I can tell you that’s not the way it’s taught at the elite privates.

No professor worth the name would make such asinine generalizations with no data to back them up. 
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Obviously it suits you to disregard my opinion and that of my immediate colleagues and that's more than fine.  I know who I am and where I work and how worthy I am to have earned a Ph.D. and the title of Associate Professor.  Take Care. [/quote]

Let’s see. A 30-year old associate professor with extensive teaching experience  :lol: opining and speaking for multiple disciplines, an entire profession, and universities in general.  Yes, you have tons of credibility.[/quote]

Not 30 years old.  A professor for 30 years.  Not speaking for an entire profession or universities in general.  Speaking of my experience and that of my colleagues at one university.   Like I said, it obviously suits you to disregard my opinion.  No problem.  You should move on now. [/quote]

Perhaps you should have similarly caveated your earlier statements but you instead implied that your statements were indicative of macro trends. :roll: [/quote]

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