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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I work in higher ed, have lived in Asia, and visit universities and high schools in China, Japan, and Vietnam annually. My opinion is that holistic admissions are imperfect, but they are a hell of a lot better than purely grade- and test-centric admissions, which corrupt not only the colleges that rely on them but also the high schools that teach to them. [/quote]the EC centered holistic admissions are more likely to confer advantages on the wealthy[/quote]
[b]The wealthy have an advantage in nearly everything, including testing and grades. [/b]We may never have a complete meritocracy, but most AOs are trained to recognize such disparities. So the kid who does a month of volunteering in Palau on his parent's dime may not have an advantage over the kid who spends 20 hours a week at a parttime job or looking after younger siblings.[/quote]We are told that admissions controls for school quality by comparing the student transcript to their school profile and don't expect students to do more than is offered by the school. Why don't they do the same with ECs? No recognition for ECs not offered by the school or that cost more than a de minimus amount?[/quote]

That E stands for “Extra” as in outside of[/quote]

why would you only want ECs that are "done at the school"?  So only the top kids can play Baseball or basketball --at our HS those kids are all from 1-2 "travel/elite" teams the rest of the year and they have connections to make the HS varsity team.

Or same with Dance or Gymnastics?  My kid does gymnastics at competitive level, and decided to skip HS and all that entails and focus on their own training and outside school team.  So they shoudlnt' be recognized for all their work?  Don't kid yourself, the kids on the HS team 95%+ do outside competitive gymnastics as well.  Nobody "who is poor/doesn't have the $$ for outside training" is making the HS team
[/quote]don't shoot the messenger. I am just taking the logic colleges use for high school courses and applying it to ECs

It just shows how messed up this holistic system is[/quote]

Umm...no you are not.  You are trying to twist information.

Every single kid has the opportunity to take any of the courses a school offers.  So AO look at the rigor offered at the HS and then at what the kid takes.

And the AO can tell who has money and just done ECs because parents have money versus a poor/LMC/MC kid who has to work PT and help actually pay the bills for the family, and who has to come home after school to help with siblings or grandparents/etc.

We get it---you want colleges to only look at GPA and SAT scores.  Well that ship has sailed.  They know that is only one indicator of what they are looking for.  And yes, if your school offers 20 AP courses, you should be taking more than 1 or 2 if you want to be considered "highest rigor".

You are arguing about all of this for literally only the T25-30 schools (maybe T40 if you include SLAC).  Outside of that, it is not "difficult" to gain admissions to national Universities ranked 30+ If you are at/above the 75% you will get into most, as long as you are an "interesting person who does more than just academics". And most Highly qualified kids are at/above 75% at most schools 30+[/quote]

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