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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Spouse works at a top private college with a large endowment. They are just waiting to see what the next fed budget looks like to start making cuts. Expect some of the following: --Cancellation/"Pauses" of all Phd programs -- Getting rid entirely of less popular departments that can be deemed non-essential to the mission. I think any ethnicity or women's studies likely on the chopping block, but also some humanities departments with low enrollment --End of anything DEI --End of merit aid --End of any non-essential spending on student services Again this is a well funded school, so expect the same or worse elsewhere. [/quote] My DC is in at a mid-sized private schools with a decent merit aid package that is for 4 years assuming DC keeps up the grades. Would those be in danger?[/quote] My guess is that, unless they are on the brink of bankruptcy, schools will not rescind merit awards for current students. In addition, because schools depend on partial-pay families middle income families (i.e., those who get merit), they will not want to scare off the next few years of applicants. The real victims will be poor kids, who depend on full or almost full FA to attend. They will be SOL, I worry. [/quote] spend some time away from here and on r/academia or r/professors or r/askacademia or r/highereducation. so many people inside universities commenting right now.[/quote] Lots of people commenting lots of things. . . . But the fact is, most schools are tuition dependent; they use 'merit' awards as a differential pricing mechanism. Rescinding merit would result in fewer (partial) tuition-paying students and a loss of income. Most schools outside of the T20 won't be able to afford that. They need those families who are chasing merit. Income-based financial aid, much of which goes to students from families with very limited ability to pay, will suffer.[/quote]I think most of the T75, maybe T100 can fill their class without merit, keeping in mind that many of those schools are nit need blind.[/quote]Not without accepting large numbers of far less competitive applicants.[/quote] Which schools do you think are giving lots of merit? We aren’t talking about financial aid, but merit. I think you need to go outside T100 to fin schools that are giving everyone a discounted price.[/quote] No, that is incorrect. My kids got merit offers from every school that accepted them, and none were out of the top 100. Also there are many excellent colleges out of the top 100. Ranking colleges is silly.[/quote]same, so many "merit" discounts and we are full pay, at many schools! most of my D's private girls school senior class has gotten merit discounts at OOS publics and privates in the top 75. These are not top kids they are just above average, 1300-1400, 4.1 "weighted" which is not top 20%. I am not talking about the real, rare merit that schools like Vandy and Wake and UNC who give full or almost full rides to less than 5% of the admitted class. I mean schools like SMU, Fordham, and dozens of out of state publics that do it to lure Virginia kids. These girls all got defer/WL or rejected from UVA and VT and yet are getting "merit" elsewhere. All are full pay quite rich families. That is not real merit, it is discounts to lure full pay families and it will start happening even more as these non-elite schools struggle more than the elite ones. Every one of these girls would go to UVA in state or a similarly ranked school if they could get in, including mine who is still hopeful for a WL miracle.[/quote]Yeah, my full-pay kid is holding 5 offers from "T75/T50" schools, public (all OOS) and private. All offered merit, in amounts ranging from $15K to over $30K. Total direct costs (i.e., tuition, fees, room & board) would run between $20K and $52K. (I fear the RD round schools will be either dings or more expensive, but I guess we'll know soon.)[/quote] You dont seem to know what Full Pay means. Even getting merit aid is not full pay. My older kid got into two colleges she had no business getting into and school said nothing. The reward is she got into it. She went to a lesser school that gave merit. My friends Dad sent him to Georgetown Full pay. Got lucky for you they got in. No merit or no financial. Those true full pay kids subsidize the FA and Merit aid kids. [/quote] You seem to have lost the focus of this discussion. We are talking about what schools are likely to cut as a result of the myriad cuts to university budgets proposed or already enacted by Trump. This is not a generic conversation about merit aid.[/quote]
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