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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I think it’s kinda obnoxious for HS kids to think they should get a job doing research.

The professor has a slew of graduate students at his fingertips to help with research. Why would someone think he would ask a kid in HS to help with research?Tell me why.  Let me real here.

Go get a job at the mall and leave this professor alone. [/quote]

And I think you haven’t bothered to read the thread. The kids are being told they need to do research. They would probably be happier spending one their last free summers lifeguarding than do research.

Blame the HSs, the AOs, the consultants and the parents. [/quote]

Don't blame the AO's. I speak to AO's all of the time (athletic recruiting). I have never been asked about a kids research even at the very top schools. They ask about a lot of stuff but research never comes up.[/quote] Athletic recruits are hooked. A 4.0, good test scores, and "standard strong" ECs are more than enough. Just because athletes do not benefit much from research does not mean no one does.

Also, have your talked to Caltech or MIT AOs?[/quote]

I do blame the AOs. This is in their control. All their false concern for kids’ mental/emotional well-being is just cr@p. 
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DCUM generally thinks AOs are liars, but you're blaming them for something they have never told you is required?

Definitely smarter to go with people on the internet or consultants. The consultants who haven't worked in admissions, have irrelevant info because they retired years ago, or who were part-time readers doing data entry and first looks at essays and letters of rec. Seems like a great plan.

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The AOs can clearly state on their webpages that research relationships with professors at the college level will not be given any more weight in admissions than a regular job.

They bear a great deal of responsibility for not controlling this.

[/quote]So on top of stating what they want, they have to anticipate every bizarre strategy cooked up by the consultant industry?

This isn't on them. It's on gullible, wealthy people who think they need to do all this stuff. Normal people don't have access to this stuff and aren't doing it. [/quote]

You're mistaken.

The colleges explicitly advocate for this behavior:

https://www.propublica.org/article/college-high-school-research-peer-review-publications

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Thanks for sharing, this is an excellent article.[/quote]

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