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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The system is much better now. Back when it was pullout the GT teachers gatekeeped to keep their caseloads small, and they left out a lot of kids who should have been identified.

My kid was overlooked. When I parent referred, they tested so high even the principal was wondering how they were missed. [/quote]
It’s not better now, just bad in a different way. The reality is we need 3 options for students especially in middle school and up-remedial, regular, intensified/honors. No one wants their kid in the struggling section so that should be placement based on test scores, work samples and teacher feedback. Honors should be similar. [/quote]

That is literally what we have now in middle school. [/quote]
1. Not all subjects have a remedial option
2. Anyone can enroll in intensified, no scores needed [/quote]

The core subjects have remedial options. Plus there are additional supports built-in to support struggling kids in grade-level classes.

Kids self select into intensified. And the enrollment is fluid - I know kids who have moved up and down during the school year.

How old are your kids? Which school(s)? Seems like you have young kids. 
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7th grader. I see the (sometimes frustrated)canvas messages his teachers send reminding students about test corrections and turning in assignments. Those kids are slowing things down. The teachers have to re-teach basic concepts in class. The problem is that  anyone can sign up for them, even if the don’t have the scores or work ethic to support the placement. [/quote]

Parents have always been able to parent place. That is nothing new.

When they added the intensified option it added an extra bucket for the bright, but less motivated kids to fall into. You end up with [i]fewer[/i] slackers in intensified Algebra 1/Geometry than before the change. 
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Ok, but there are still parents inappropriately placing kids and there’s no more pull outs so it’s actually worse than before[/quote]

There were never pullouts in middle school. That’s just not a thing. It’s gross that you think your kid is so special that you want to block other kids from the same opportunities. Did you know anyone can take AP classes too? You need to adjust your attitude or you have a long road ahead of you. [/quote]
It’s not fair for the teachers, the students who can’t keep up or those who can. It’s a broken system[/quote]

Anyone can take the class, but the rigor shouldn’t change. Let ‘em drown.[/quote]

That's where I'm at as well. I don't think APS would let it happen though. [/quote]
A kid who is drowning is probably struggling with MS generally.  The intensified classes just aren't that much harder.  If you do the work, you'll be fine.  Maybe not an A, but not drowning.[/quote]

That’s the point. They’ve watered down the advanced courses. I say, whatever, let anyone in who wants to join (some people may surprise you!), but let’s stop making them easier. Kids will either succeed, or not…[/quote]
They just added the intensified classes--they're new. They haven't been around long enough to be watered down.  Let's not make stuff up.

I'm happy if APS wants to make them harder, but that's somewhat hard to do when there's a policy that they can only cover the same content as the non-intensified version.  [/quote]

This is not the first year for intensified classes in HS. Take a seat.[/quote]

I think the PP was talking about middle school. Intensified classes are pretty new in MS. [/quote]

If the intensified classes in HS are a joke, why would MS be different?[/quote]

Just stop.

We have actual real issues. We don’t need parents manufacturing new ones just because they feel like it. 
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Of course there are additional issues. I can be concerned about multiple things at once.

No one is making this up. The intensified classes at the HS level *are* a joke. [/quote]

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