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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][b][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Would you rather loose locality pay to be able to telework at least one day a week or rather keep locality pay and return to work 5 days a week?[/quote]

I'd personally go in, because, no joke, the difference is 30k but 90% of my agency is not DC area, we're all 50 states.  We hired hundreds of people entirely remotely.[/quote]

this is what makes me laugh. my DH is a FED, we live in DC and less than 10 miles from his agency (15-20 min by car), he was doing some remote work already before covid (like 2 days week) and totally remote since 2020. we could not care less if he has to go back, he will. But people who were hired from red states far away, they are going to be screwed. some GOP rants about moving feds out of DC and dont realize the easier way is for jobs that can be remote to be remote so people from anywhere can be hired. so this is screwing the people from the very states these GOP reprs and senators are from. and I dont even mention that my DH's agency, in the middle of nowhere MD, does not have space and parking space for the number of employees so if everybody is 100% back in the office there is an issue where people are going to sit and how they get there if they cannot park anywhere. but hey, while the billionaires screw the country and increase the debt to unsustainable levels damaging everybody, the GOP needs some scapegoats to channel people's rage and as immigrants, trans, Muslims, the welfare queens may not be enough, they need to throw in the feds too, spending their time taking bubble baths and working 1-2 hours a day for a lavish amount of money funded by hardworking middle America that struggle from pay check to paycheck while working on site 12hr a day (cit. Joni Ernst)  [/quote]

Most of the feds are living in cheap 1 hour away areas like pg county [/quote]

Yup. You try supporting a family on 100k with a reasonable commute to DC, if you didn't buy a house 10 years ago. Parts of PG county are pretty close in, but lots of us live places like Frederick, Woodbridge, Fredericksburg, etc. Telework helped us balance relatively low salaries (most feds aren't lawyers at the SEC) with, you know, having a life. It's even harder to move close on a fed salary than it was before covid. [/quote]

I am sick about hearing that you get paid so little, sick to death of it.  So what!  Get a second job to increase your quality of life and [b]stop sponging off of taxpayers with your continuous whining about the sacrifices you make for us.  I hope they take your pensions away too[/b].[/quote]

This is incoherent. How does whining = sponging off of taxpayers?

You realize we are taxpayers too, right?

Also, who would you like to deliver your government services? And for what cost? Are you willing to do such work? Or are you an lite, too-good jerk who is sponging off of public servants?[/quote]

This is an excellent question. If my agency (VA) stopped delivering services, constituents would be contacting their members of Congress because they actually need and want the services.[/quote]

My spouse's job involves making sure the ships and submarines service members use are safe.  Would this anti government types be happy if entire ships of Marines and Sailors died because no one inspected the welds and plates on the ships?[/quote]

Mine involves nuclear weapons.

Although I’m a fed too and I will say where I am there are [b]many b.s. made-up positions[/b].

Across the govt there’s a real mix of truly critical/vital and total nonsense.
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I worked at my last agency 15 years. When I started, I thought a lot of the roles were unnecessary or not worth a full time employee. Then I'd learn a little bit more, and see why the job existed, or find out the part I saw was only 20% of someone's full job description. Then I started supervising and found out more about employees who, when I was staff, I'd thought were slacking because I didn't see their work.

Then I left for a new agency that lacks some of those "bs" roles, and I can see how we'd benefit from having them.

No organization is 100% efficient or perfectly run, but I am really skeptical of people who claim there are a lot of BS jobs or a lot of slackers. It makes me think they just don't have the right vantage point to see the full picture. 
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Same.  The people who look like they’re doing nothing are usually doing critically important yet mind numbing tasks, and have institutional knowledge that makes it look easy.  Trust me, you don’t want them to leave on short notice.  I am rebuilding a unit after a retirement apocalypse and oh. my. god.[/quote]

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