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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Any school that rejected a kid. Yield protection is a coping mechanism used by many on here when kids get rejected. [/quote]
I disagree. If two ivies accept and a top 75 rejects, it's not a copying mechanism. Yield protection is real.[/quote]

If it’s a consistent pattern, maybe. But it’s also possible that the student did something in the application to the T75 school to warrant the rejection. There are a lot of kids now applying to 25 or more schools and it’s hard not to make mistakes/get sloppy with the essays. [/quote]

Such a perfectly impervious theory. Didn’t get in? You should have applied to more schools. Still didn’t get in? You applied to too many schools. No matter what happens, it’s always the kid’s fault. [/quote]

Nope, not blaming the kids.  But there are simply way, way more qualified students than their are slots at the "top" schools. The bottom line is that kids need to understand that nothing is guaranteed, that they are not entitled to get into any one of these schools (regardless of their metrics), and that there are other kids who are just as deserving as they are.  Moreover, as soon as everyone realizes that there are super-smart, highly-accomplished kids at literally hundreds of colleges--kids just as amazing as their own (gasp!)--everyone will be better off.[/quote]

Sorry, but my issue with yield protection isn’t the top schools. I get that they’re too small for their avowed purpose. It’s the lower-tier schools like Elon. You wind up with high stats kids who don’t get into top schools because of random chance, and then also can’t get in to lower-tier schools because those schools assume the kids will get into a more impressive school OR because the lower-tier school filled up with less impressive kids in the ED round. The high stats wind up being an albatross that prevent strong students from getting into the kind of small or mid-size, four year private residential college they wanted. This is why people with 1600s debate applying TO to those mid-tier schools. The schools’ behavior shows them to be so opposed to academic achievement that students think they might have to hide it. And it makes me sad and angry to see educational institutions treat educational achievement as a strike against anyone. [/quote]

Your view is so judgmental and cynical.  The lower ranked schools are making a calculation, often based on demonstrated interest.  Educational achievement is not a strike against these almighty high stats kids.  The reality is that they likely did not show interest or did not tailor their essays to the school.  Lower stats schools would love to have high stats kids but they want kids who want to be there and who will accept.  My kid went to Elon and there are plenty of high stats kids there.  They are kids who wanted to be there and likely articulated why.  They are kids who applied for programs like fellows.  That shows the school they are serious.  They are not kids who just clicked a few boxes and cut and pasted a couple of essays.  These schools can tell who has spent the time getting to know the school and actually wants to be there as opposed to the kids who were told they need a “safety” and assume they are too good for the school and can’t be bothered to demonstrate interest.

If your kid demonstrated interest and did not get in, there is likely some other problem.[/quote

No offense, but those kids aren't "high stats kids." The fact is that Elon simply does not let in high stats kids, no matter how "interest" or essay tailoring they did. Elon was a safety for both of my kids. It was a school that had they not gotten into their reaches or matches, they would have happily attended. They were "high stats," but not top 10 high stats. Top 10 high stats kids don't apply. Higher stats, but not tippy top, will apply to Elon and be happy going there. But guess what? They don't get in. My first kid got deferred in EA, then waitlisted in RD at Elon, while getting into multiple matches: Lehigh, Lafayette, Pitt, W&M, and one reach: Georgetown. He showed great interest in Elon. There is no way that wasn't Elon gaming the rankings. My second kid got outright rejected while also getting into much more highly ranked, more desirable schools, including again, Lafayette and W&M, plus Hamilton--her first choice, and Tulane. Their rejections are outright yield protection in a desperate effort to game the rankings game. In the case of my kids, they did get it right, but I would guess they are missing a lot of strong kids who would actually go there through these shenanigans.[/quote]

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