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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]^ I don’t know why the teachers unions aren’t protesting and refusing to work either. They stopped work during Covid which was much less of a risk for them than violence in the schools (especially in some areas). And the public would actually be on their side with this, because the vast majority of us don’t want these violent kids in our schools either. At very least those kids should be put in a room all day together and kept away from the other kids. I don’t believe that any law prevents that (it’s “appropriate” to keep them apart from other kids if they’re violent) but if so then laws can be changed.[/quote]

Many teachers in certain states aren't in unions. In Virginia teachers are forbidden from collective bargaining and they don't have the right to strike. The district where the teacher was shot by the six year old (who said I shot that b**ch dead, after the shooting) is arguing that getting shot on the job is just part of the risk of being a teacher.

It is really exhausting when who have a kid who is so out of control that it really burns out multiple people at a school. To know you have to go to work and watch a kid do whatever they want and there are no consequences is so disheartening. Kid decided to walk around school, enter classrooms that aren't his, walk into office, threaten to go walk off campus. Goes to recess decides he wants to keep playing. Throws things in class and bites, hits, kicks teachers, staff and other students, cusses at whoever he wants. The emphasis is only on what positive rewards he can earn and waiting him out. The problem is that when you have a kid who is reasonably clever they realize there is absolutely nothing that the school can do to restrain or punish the child in anyway so that they are motivated not to engage in that behavior. Then you have parents who can't or won't discipline their child so the child never learns they have to wait, have to have boundaries, needs to think about others, etc.

If you had someone go into a store and start flinging things off shelves you wouldn't wait out the person until they calms down, the police are called and the person is arrested. If a patient is hostile in a doctor's office and cusses out the office staff, the doctor can chose not to continue having the person as a patient. If you went to work and a co-worker stabbed you with a pencil they wouldn't be employed. At an ER if someone is assaulting staff members they are physically or medically restrained. Schools are now pretty much forbidden from restraining students or having seclusion rooms where students were taken who were out of control until they calmed down. [/quote]

I was going to write out a similar response but this is 100% accurate. Even in states with strong unions, there is 50 years of federal law about educating students with disabilities and 25 years of pushing to keep those students mainstreamed in almost all circumstances. A good union might help a teacher get workers compensation after being attacked or but it's not going to fight to get the kid removed from the classroom. [/quote]

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