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FWIW I know atheists who have seriously dealt with the question of where standards for morality come from if there is no God and come up with some really compelling arguments. I was expecting one of those, not the tautology "My way is more moral because I say it is more moral."[/quote]

Then you are not paying attention.  Even AI has a simple explanation:

[i]According to most atheists, morality stems from a combination of human empathy, reason, social cooperation, and evolutionary pressures, meaning it arises naturally within human society without the need for a deity to define it; essentially, morality is based on what promotes the well-being and survival of the community, not divine commands[/i]

Seems right to me.[/quote]

That is certainly one opinion.

I find it hard to believe that anyone with a single cell of critical thinking can accept that morality comes from what promotes the survival of a community, but apparently these people exist. [/quote]

DP - and I find it hard to believe that anyone with a single cell of critical thinking can accept that morality comes from ancient, pre-scientific  myths,  but apparently these people exist - lots of them, still.  But not for long.  They are dying off and being replaced.

The world will probably not be any better, though, because people can be  bad, even without religion.  It's just how we are.   Just look at the animals that we're descended from.

And look at Trump.  He's not religious.  He uses religious people though, to his advantage.

We try though, and do have periods of peace and progress.  [/quote]

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