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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]He was a lightweight. His folksy schtick on 60 Minutes wasn’t even cute. I don’t think he hurt her but he definitely didn’t help.

PA was always a must win state. Why they didn’t pick Josh Shapiro as VP was baffling.[/quote]

They lost WI and MI, Shapiro would not have helped there. Walz was fine, a little out of his depth and didn't do so well under pressure, but he wasn't a hue problem. A weak candidate who could not articulate a clear policy platform was the primary problem, and the majority's perception that the country has moved too far left on immigration and other issues. Harris tried to thread the needle with too many constituencies, which made her seem weak and wishy washy. A strong, articulate moderate who made a point of putting Biden in the rearview, and who always kept the focus on the bread and butter issues American care about, could have won.[/quote]

It’s rare to find such reasonable takes on here. Good job.[/quote]

Agree. Both candidates were terrible.
Its sad. Terrible choice to make between two extremes.[/quote]

Too bad we couldn't have just had a regular primary. [/quote]

For both parties, that would have been idea.

But the problem for democrats was that Biden picked Harris for VP, and to get rid of him they either had to pick her or risk passing her over and pissing off a lot of people.  So she was the only possible choice, even though she wasn't the best.  If only Biden hadn't decided to run again in the first place, and then we could have actually had a primary.[/quote]

But how would the end result be any different? If Biden didn't run, and let's assume Harris did, who would have beaten her in the primary and then beat Trump in the general election?[/quote]
If Biden had kept his word of being a bridge president and never contemplated running again there would have been a robust primary process with enough lead up for the nominee to introduce themselves to the country, draw contrasts with the unpopular Biden, etc. That primary likely would have included Shapiro, Beshear, Whitmer, Harris and maybe Mark Kelly. And of that group of 5, I would have ranked Harris last. There could have been a Shapiro/Whitmer or Beshear/Whitmer ticket, either of which would have stood a better chance. [/quote]

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