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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I don’t have any problem with handguns or hunting rifles stored safely and managed responsibly. I think most sane people would agree. The unique issue in our country is the worship of firearms and the ability for ordinary citizens to own machine guns.[/quote]

Just how many people do you think have these?  Sale has been banned for decades.[/quote]

The PP means semi-automatic long guns with extended clips. Mass shooters just looooovvveee extended clips. If you want to kill a lot of people, quickly, extended clips are a must-have.  :D   But Mass shooters can always count on Republicans for support, so all is well and nothing changes. MAGA!

Thoughts-n-Prayers,
-Democrat gun owner.[/quote]

Semi-automatic long guns almost universally use “magazines,” not “clips,” which typically hold 5 to at most 8 rounds.

You really need to get informed before ranting. [/quote]
Pedantic nitpicking isn't the devastating counterargument you seem to think it is.[/quote]

Wait a minute — you mean knowing the difference between a magazine and a clip is NOT the kind of information that will change people’s minds about gun legislation??[/quote]

Certainly not. Because the level of absolute ontological ignorance about firearms, in addition to the delusional magical thinking, displayed by the average proponent of so-called “gun control” is such that nothing could dissuade them from their incoherent, fantasy-based convictions that their personal fear of inanimate injections, driven by their own deeply feared, barely-suppressed rage and anger, should govern the rights of other people to take reasonable, common-sense steps to protect themselves from criminal psychopaths and enjoy the sporting activities they prefer. [/quote]

Your gun collection is what’s making you a likely victim. Guns are the most valuable thing in your home to a criminal.

No other civilized country lets children be repeatedly slaughtered at school.  You’re a sick person. And no amount of vocabulary quizzes is going to convince people otherwise.

Congratulations on being a tool for the NRA and gun manufacturers. [/quote]

Understanding the technoligies and terminology is important if you are going to propose restrictions on firearms.

Take for example saying you need to ban "clips", means you aren't banning most modern pistol and rifle designs such as Glocks and AR15s. Rather you are banning world war 1 and 2 weapon designs.

Saying you need to ban "automatics" is pointless because automatic weapons made after 1986 are banned for the public. You could then see how saying you want to ban either of these things comes off as ill informed and would lead to ineffective policies.  You can't have a fruitful discussion, let alone propose useful legislation.
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DP.  Common sense can't get wrapped in semantics, it needs to focus on the functional.  When someone says "automatic" it's stupid to say "well automatic weapons is only about rifles that use gas to automatically eject the casing derp herp derp" when there are many different mechanisms, like bump stocks and Glock switches and so on.  Functionally, they fire a large amount of ammunition at a fast rate, only with a little less control than a machine gun with selectable fire.  Likewise it doesn't really make a difference whether it's a stripper clip or a magazine when one is talking about a way to make a lot of ammunition quickly available to a gun.

Instead they should be looking at functional bans, like any gun capable of firing more than 50 rounds per minute by any means whatsoever (takes bump stocks and other mechanisms out of the mix) and any gun that has a capacity of 10 rounds or more, and any gun made after a military pattern.  Why military pattern, you ask?  Psychological.  Mass shooters and others want the appearance of their gun to scare and intimidate others, which is why they choose AR-15s rather than a Remington with a wooden stock.   Not much difference in lethality, it's all psychological.[/quote]

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