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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]You can totally leave it running for the AC, leave the key fob with the kid and have them lock the door. Then when you get back, they unlock it for you. 7 is plenty old to do this. [/quote]

I worry about a car jacker showing up with a gun and demanding that the car be unlocked. [/quote]

You are worrying about a fantasy that will never happen.[/quote]

Yeah. You tell ‘em.

Or…

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/two-juveniles-sought-in-car-theft-with-child-inside-in-northwest-dc-police/3172083/

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/4-month-old-girl-found-after-being-taken-in-georgetown-car-theft/3508529/
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Those cars were not parked in parking lots with security guards-- they were parked on the street.

The kids in those cases were much younger. In the case of the infant, the carjacker likely did not even realize the baby was in the car for some time.

It's also not clear how long those cars were left idling. In the infant case the mom left the car to go into a perfume store (wtf). Are these cases of people running short errands nearby or are they cases of people using leaving kids in idling cars for 30 or 60 minutes?

The PP is envisioning a situation where a carjacker approaches a locked car with a 7 year old visible in the back seat, and in full view of the security guard and what I'm sure are security cameras outside the pharmacy, points a gun at the child and demands they unlock the car. In the 3-5 minutes the mom was inside the pharmacy.

This will not happen.[/quote]

So the security guard was babysitting the child? Is that his job?[/quote]

I actually do think it's his job. It was a few minutes and the mom was right inside. The child is 7, not 2.

The other day I was at the grocery store with my 8 yr old and it started pouring rain while we were in the store. DD was in flipflops (post swim class) and I decided to run and get the car and pick her up at the curb. I left her in the vestibule next to the door. I did consider this a reasonably safe option in part because there was a security guard posted near the door and the area is monitored by cameras.

Am I a derelict parent for leaving an elementary kid alone in public for a few minutes?[/quote]

You alone think his job is childcare for lazy parents. Do you leave your children with strangers often without even checking with them letting them know they are in charge? Do you dump your 7 yr old at the pool for the day because the lifegaurds will take over? At the mall? Or anywhere with a security guard because it’s their job to watch kids?[/quote]

DP but I don’t think it’s fair to equate this to childcare. The security guard has the purpose of deterring crime whether it’s for a 7 year old sitting in a car or a 70 year old sitting in a car. If the kid were 8 (or 10 or whatever age DCUM declares is ok) then it wouldn’t be babysitting, but at 7 it is?

OP’s error was leaving the car running. Also, I have my pharmacy at the grocery store so I can pick it up during routine shopping. There are also pharmacies with drive throughs. These may be better options for the future.[/quote]

You’re putting your kid’s life in a security guard’s hands? The same security guard who is probably told to stand down and not pursue criminals? Hardened criminals won’t be deterred by a toothless rent a cop. [/quote]

Okay but when I’m in that shopping center I’m also putting my own life in the hands of the rent a cop. I’m a 5’0 100 lb female who could not fight off a car jacker. Neither could most 75 year old ladies. Why is it ok for him to supposedly be there to protect adults but not kids? [/quote]

np. Rent-a-cops won't protect you if there is a danger. Retail security guards aren't paid enough to put their own life in danger, nor does the store want to deal with potential assault claims.

The fact that a security guard could detain someone committing a crime will deter most people. The security guard is also, as pp stated, mostly there to stop theft. [/quote]

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