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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][b]HLS is nearly three times the size as YLS.[/quote][/b] But it still has more cumulative Rhodes Scholars. Some of that is due to the fact that [b]Harvard University (from whence HLS pulls a lot of its students)[/b] has many more Rhodes than YAle. Harvard has 362. Yale has only 245, then Princeton at 210.[/quote] You mean Harvard College. You still don’t get it (international?). Harvard College drives everything. As for Harvard College grads going to HLS (which is an easier admit than Harvard College, as are all grad programs), they are not the cream of the Harvard College crop — which does not need to get a law degree to have a lucrative career.[/quote] But a number of the top academic College students do go to the Law School, and this is where the Harvard College students who go to HLS come from (almost exclusively from the top 10-20% or so). From an intellectual point of view, unlike most of H's grad schools, [b]the typical HLS student would be at the top of the College student body.[/b] I have worked with a lot of H students or known them in other capacities, and I don't think you can compare the applicant pools of the College and Law School, statistically or otherwise, as they have varying levels of academic and other qualities, varying numbers of total applications submitted (diluting or increasing the admission rates), etc. Also, you didn't address this, but a number of the College students are completely disastrous (i.e., it isn't clear how or why they got in). I don't have a good explanation for this, so I will allow others to speculate, but I suspect this is due to the fact that as a general rule, it is much easier to select students at the age of 23-24 or so then when they are 17. [/quote] Simply not true. You are apparently unfamiliar with Harvard.[/quote] This is not really a controversial point. Prior to 2020, when grade inflation truly took off, the Harvard College students who were getting into HLS had GPAs that put them at the high end of the student body as a whole. This particularly true for students who were not URM or connected in some significant way. [/quote] Cite? To the extent this was true, you would have to compare “soft major” GPAs to other majors. Suffice to say, GPA at Harvard is not the proxy you think it is.[/quote] No cite -- I personally am an academic who has seen how this works and am particularly knowledgeable about H. If you are affiliated with HC, as you say, you have access to all this information from one of your tutors. [/quote] Then you know your undifferentiated by major gpa argument is gobbledygook. [/quote] I don't think I made any such argument, and I'm not sure you know what you are saying. Of course majors (and everything else is considered.) But I don't think you have thought through grading patterns by major at H (which do not vary as much as you think). Actually I have no idea whether you are clear about what you think. Talk to your pre-law tutor soon. They can help. [/quote]
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