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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Their demographics are very different, with something like 50% of the kids being first gen, and nearly as many FARMS. I would be surprised if their college admissions results are substantially different than in the past. [/quote]

The first generation students who manage to get into Stuy and other similar city schools are top students with self motivation and drive.  The private school students even with tutors and small classes and the best of everything can’t compete with them. [/quote]

As a stuy grad, I wish this were true but it's not.

The fancy private schools like Trinity, Collegiate, Dalton, and a bunch of others send a larger share of their kids to top 50 schools.

Stuy may be the best publlic high school in NYC but there are like half a dozen private schools better than stuy.
A lot of what makes stuy does is that you are collect the best raw talent from 80,000 8th graders.
You put them in a sink or swim genius factory ... and a lot of the kids sink.
They don't become failures but noone holds their hand.  
They are responsible for their own development.

So they leave with self motivation and drive but the process can be uncomfortable.
They develop self motivation and drive because they spend 4 years on arrakis.
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