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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The only way Trump wins is if he picks a respected, pre-MAGA GOP without extreme speech or values. Not sure who that would even be, and of course he'd not want them as VP.[/quote]

He shouldn't win even if he had Jesus Christ as his running mate but he just might win considering the weakness of his opponent.[/quote]

The opposite is true actually. Trump's base is shrinking. He can't rally more extremists. He could appeal to more centrists and independents turned off by Biden with the right VP. [/quote]

I think it's more of a matter of who won't turn out to vote in 2024 as opposed to who the people that do turn out vote for. There is no way in heck these two clowns dupe 155 million people into voting for them again. Let's say 130 million people vote for Trump and Biden in 2024. Of those 25 million that choose not to vote for Trump or Biden again in 2024, how many will be Trump 2020 voters and how many will be Biden 2020 voters. Who loses the most 2020 voters in 2024? That's the sad question.[/quote]

I don't think anyone that voted for Trump in 2020 has been dissuaded by anything that has transpired since. I believe that his numbers are his floor. And ceiling. The only question is how much Roe will motivate people on the other side to turn out. I can only tell you that my 70 something year old mother who voted for Biden is sitting this one out (yes, I'll be spending the next few months convincing her of the importance of her vote). I do believe that if I can get her to the polls, she will vote against Trump.[/quote]

There are 10 to 20 million swing voters out there that voted for Trump or Biden in 2020 that will either not vote or will vote for a 3rd party in 2024. They are considered swing voters for a reason. A large portion of Trump voters from 2020 are locks vote for him again but he will lose some of those 10 to 20 million swing voters just as Biden will. These are two very unpopular candidates relative to the historical norm and this fact makes the usual election variables even less predictable.[/quote]

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