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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I don't think there is any bump for non-hooked kids.

My kids left DCPS for a Big3 private in 9th grade.  They were able to get into the Big3 private because they were at the very top of their DCPS cohort: PARCC scores at the 99%, grades all 98%+, top math track etc.  
Now at the Big3 privates they are both around the 80% of their grades.  There are kids who are smarter than they are and who had better preparation PK-8th. My kids are not hooked.  
My senior is ending up at a college ranked 20-30.  Not a bad result!  However, peers who remained at JRHS are also getting the same results, if not higher schools.  And these kids were the average kids in the classes 
that my kids left. 
I have a few friends whose kids also left DCPS and they are having the same experience.  Many of the smartest kids leave DCPS and get into the same colleges that the average kids who stayed at DCPS get into.

The good news about leaving is that my kids have learned an absolute phenomenal amount since leaving and were learning next to nothing in DCPS.  I had my kids in DCPS or a collective 30+ years so I'm not disparaging the schools as an outsider but as a parent who has a decade plus of experience at every level. [/quote]

Compare the 2024 (or 2023) college destinations of JR to GDS, Sidwell, Maret, etc. JR students, on average, are attending much lower ranked colleges. You rarely see Big 3/5 student’s attending GMU, JMU, or regionally ranked colleges, but you see that in abundance at JR. I don’t know how your child performed academically at his private, but if his results are similar to a wide swath of JR, then your child did something wrong. [/quote]

There are only 70 results posted for JR...that's less than 20% of the class that will actually go to college (only about 14% of the total class).  It is easily a drop of 50% of postings at this time last year.  Stop relying on instagram postings as anything close to definitive...it's not.  It is no longer reliable for much of anything.
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Let’s focus on facts:
1.  JR’s enrollment (2022-2023): 2,153 (~538 students per grade)
2.  JR’s graduation rate (according to Niche): 87% (468 students)
3.  Percentage of graduating JR students attending 2 or 4 year colleges, immediately following graduation (according to JR/DCPS’ website: 90% of the 468 graduates (421 students)

Last year, there were 206 JR Instagram posts. That represents nearly 50% of the 421 students who graduated and attended a 2 or 4 year college in 2023. Seven (7) of the students who posted are freshman at Ivies (including one URM recruited athlete).

Big 3/5 DC Metro schools routinely send 15% to 25%+ of their graduating classes to Ivies. If JR sent 30 students to Ivies last year (that definitely didn’t happen), then that would still only be 7.1% of the class that continued on to college.

In summary, the facts make it clear that if your child is aiming for Ivies (difficult for everyone), they have a much better shot statistically if they attend a Big 3/5, as compared to JR. [/quote]

I believe many people think that being an unhooked UMC kid has a better chance from public than at a top private.

At the end of the day, the kid who didn’t get in from private may think the legacies took all the spots to ivies and that he could have fared better from public. There will be some unhooked public school superstars who shine and get into Harvard or MIT but many more who got rejected.[/quote]

That’s my point: Feelings are not facts. Unhooked kids from Big 3/5 schools get into Ivies every year. The facts show their odds are better coming from one of those privates than JR. [/quote]

Except you aren't actually providing data.  How many unhooked kids from Big 3 schools were accepted into the Ivy schools?  If you read posts from other Big3 parents...literally somebody said that STA did not have a single unhooked kid go to an Ivy school for 2023.  I don't know if that is true.

You may be correct, but nobody publishes the actual data.  There are no Facts of which you speak.[/quote]

The numbers provided are facts. They don’t conform to your worldview, so you don’t like the facts provided. That’s your problem.

Btw, how many of the JR Ivy admits are hooked? At least 1/7 posted. I’m sure there are a few legacies in there too. [/quote]

What numbers, what facts?  Did the schools publish a list of 2023 matriculations and the number of students attending?  Did they publish information like Harvard Westlake that actually lists how many of the admits were athletes or legacy (not URM...but close)?

Please, post the Fact sheets from the schools.  I don't even know what "numbers provided" even means?  What numbers provided?

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The goal posts keep moving. You look it up.

Btw, send your child to JR and hope for the best. Not my monkeys, not my circus. [/quote]

I did...and my kid is at a top 5.  It all worked as planned.

What posts were moved...the request was for actual data and facts, that's all.[/quote]

Good for you that your child survived JR. I hope he’s better prepared for college than the 2010 valedictorian who graduated and went to Dartmouth:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/graduates-from-low-performing-dc-schools-face-tough-college-road/2013/06/16/e4c769a0-d49a-11e2-a73e-826d299ff459_story.html

I’m happy that I don’t have to worry about such things. [/quote]

Carrying a 3.9 in CS and loving life.  So weird that you feel the need to search to find an article from 11 years ago.

You really must have some strange complex.  Worry about what things?

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Sure, Jan 😂

I didn’t have to search for that article because I keep it in one of my email folders. It’s one of THE primary reasons I knew I would never send my children to Wilson/JR. I drop the link anytime I encounter people lying about what a great education their children received at JR. It’s proof that you get what you pay for.

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You keep a 13 year article around in your email folders so you can handily post a link on DCUM?

Again...you don't think you have a problem?

Who is lying about what?

So many issues to untangle.[/quote]

I don’t care what you think about me, JR mom. The article is a great reminder of the amazing gift of education I’m giving my children. I know that you can’t relate. [/quote]

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