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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The 2011s are top 20 in the nation, got second in state cup….what are you talking about[/quote]

Really?  Top 20 in the nation for a U13 team?  Let's get real folks.  Let's get something straight, top teams aren't doing state cup and got soccer points is a joke.  Be happy your kid is doing well and having fun, but take your top 20 comment and quietly go home before you are laughed out. [/quote]

I agree that the 2011s are a solid team but they compete against the second teams from bigger clubs. There were/are 2 VA state cups - one for ECNL teams and another for non-ECNL teams. Despite playing in pre-ECNL last year, Valor competed in the non-ECNL state cup, beating second teams on the way to the finals. Cool for them, but it doesn’t make them a Top 20 team in the country. [/quote]

They do this all the time with the younger ages as well it seems. Play down in tournaments they can stack with their teams to just show wins against teams they have no business playing against. The club just wants wins so parents are happy and they can post about it on social media and not actually getting the kids real experience against top (or even second teams let's be honest) teams.

I've had to explain this to potential and new travel parents with elementary aged kids who don't know any better and think Valor is really good just from looking at their social media showing how much they win vs other clubs' social media. [/quote]

That is actually not remotely accurate. [b]Speaking for Girls, younger teams have been playing in a variety of tournaments. Some quite competitive[/b] and others that are not. The ones that were not as competitive had the teams playing in the top groups, but the competition was not there. The purpose of play in these tourneys was to get other competition and not just play NOVA teams. In other tournaments, Valor wanted to play in the top but for some reason was not placed there (new club, tournament sandbagging, etc.?). For mid age groups, a lot of times they are placed further down because of ECNL-RL vs ECNL/ GA. Again, not a club decision, just how all of this plays out.[/quote]

Do you work for Valor? [/quote]

DP, but how does this club not do Wags? That’s pretty embarrassing.[/quote]

I'm not affiliated with Valor, but they played in WAGS this year.[/quote]

I didn’t see many of the younger teams in it, but perhaps I didn’t look close enough?[/quote]

I don't know what other age groups, but 2011 definitely did.[/quote]

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