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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=jsteele][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]So on the left we have people who hate Jews because they're white European colonizers trying to commit genocide against non-whites.

And on the right we have people who hate Jews because Jews hate white people and have been trying to replace them with non-whites.

It's nuts. [/quote]

Jews are white people, many of whom pretend to be non-whites so they can join the anti-white pile-on. Many actual non-whites go along with the charade.[/quote]

Well, clearly white supremacists don't think they're white, judging by the tweet and the conspiracy theory behind it.

But if you're on the younger side, I can confirm that Jews were absolutely not considered white until around twenty years ago, when being white became a bad thing. As you can see from the comment you responded to, Jews are whatever people deem to be a negative. Jews might might not have been considered "people of color" (that term is a relatively new one), but they were considered "other" than white. [/quote]

Oh but don't you see - we're both white and not white, depending on who is looking. To the far left, we're white - which is why it was OK for Hamas to slaughter lots of Jews. Because they're white - and the slaughterers are brown. So it must be that the killers were justified. Israel, to them, is a white colonialist state - and so anything, literally anything, that the people they view as the colonized do to tear down the state is just fine.

Also, Jews can't possibly feel afraid or persecuted or attached as a group because we're just white.

But to the people who belong to the "Jews won't replace us" part of the anti-semitism movement - we're ethnic, but sneaky ethnic. We're trying to *pass* as white but we aren't white - and we must be stopped.[/quote]

To be fair, this duality of whiteness is a thing Jews have embraced. Just take showbiz names for example: [url]http://jewbellish.com/jewish-celebrities-change-gentile-names/[/url]

You can play both sides for a time, but eventually you end up on neither side. That's where we are now.

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Why don't you ask yourself for one moment why it is that Jews have tried to assimilate at times - and at other times have felt not just the urge but the need to identify ourselves as Jewish. I'll give you a minute to think about it. [/quote]

But there is the rub, Jews have never tried to assimilate. A better analogy would be to say they use camouflage. They want to remain Jewish while appearing "white" to outsiders. Maybe that was a smart play in the short term, but here we are now...[/quote]

You really can't generalize like that. Of course some Jews have tried to assimilate. Others haven't. And members of both groups have a variety of motivations. Blanket statements in this sort of conversation are useless.
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Refusal to assimilate is one of the key aspects of preserving a Jewish identity over the ages. [b]The Jews of America come from Russia, Poland, and a dozen other countries, but they identify as Jews not as Russian/Polish/Etc. That's because they never were Russian, or Polish, or Portuguese. [/b]

At some point, the Jews of America will move on to somewhere else. They will then be Jewish in China, Israel, India. etc... They will not be Americans in those countries.

This is how they preserve their Jewish identity despite not having lived in Judea for two millennia. [/quote]

Oh, please do tell me, the descendant of Russian Jews who had to flee to America after bloody pogroms, all about how Jews deliberately identified as Jews not as Russians. You do recognize that was very much a two-way street, right? Russia/Poland/Portugal have all, at various times, decided very violently that their Jewish neighbors don't belong, and murdered or chased us away. [/quote]

But those who left Russia in the 1980s or later didn’t suffer from pogroms. [/quote]

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