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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]At least some of them are retiring to get FCPS pensions while collecting a salary in a new division.

I get the impression Reid actually expects some results from principals and the ones who quit were used to Brabrand’s do-nothing style.[/quote]

+1. I also get a strong sense from community meetings that Reid is out here pushing for real results - especially for the most disadvantaged and those lagging far behind the norm. I think some principals, specifically those closer to retirement, realize it's going to be hard work to fix the failing schools and jumping ship to a system with less expectations is an easy way out.[/quote]

I agree with this. It's easy to keep swimming along with the stream, especially if you've been doing it long enough to be close to retirement. Do you really care at that point if the system works or if the stream is clean?  Do you care if it is a downright toxic environment for a not-insignificant portion of students? Or do you just want to come in and punch a clock and not have to actually manage anyone or be in charge of fixing anything for the next couple of years?

My guess would be just to punch a clock. That's what I'd want to do, but then again, I don't work in a public environment where I'm expected and entrusted to be a guardian working in the best interest of minors. The system stinks, and when you are in charge of managing a stinky system, then you can't afford to just coast through. If you aren't up to right the ship, then the most responsible thing is to jump ship. [/quote]

And we are. Nobody wants to work with a parent like you that’s going to try to guilt them into loving an almost impossible job.[/quote]

Okay twinkle toes. Here’s the thing very few people love their jobs. You are lucky if you do, but most don’t. Love has nothing to do with conducting yourself in a capable, competent and professional manner.

If you want to be the adult equivalent of a schoolyard bully, in total control, and not have your actions be questioned or criticized then may I suggest the FFX county Sheriff’s Office. I hear the county is hiring prison guards.

Go work out your anger, aggression and control issues on the career cons. Warning though when they don’t like you they won’t just grumble  and complain to the higher ups. They’ll probably just shank you in the kidney and call it a day.

Hope a career spent policing cafeteria food fights and hallway dilly dalliers hasn’t made you soft. [/quote]

LOL one flew over the cuckoos nest :lol:  I'm not "twinkle toes" but wow you have a lot of issues as a parent and human. [/quote]

I don’t get this comment at all. PP made some very valid points. Most people do not love their jobs. And teachers need to develop a thicker skin when it comes to people complaining about them. If they don’t want anyone questioning them, they should try working in a prison. That’s all PP was saying. What issues do you get from that?[/quote]

From what I can tell from DCUM, the teachers actually have pretty thick skin. They can “give it”, just as much as parents do. I’ve seen plenty of overly sensitive parents on this forum.[/quote]

Teachers have to have a thick skin! Our days are spent dealing with complainers, often people arguing against their own best interests. I’ve been called every curse word in the book, mainly because I said things like “please put away your phone” and “I’d like you to stop poking your classmate.” I’ve been hit by a high schooler. And then I’ve been told I’m a dreadful teacher and a horrible human (just this past week) because I called a parent about a plagiarized essay.

So I think I can handle anything the DCUM meanies want to throw my way. Usually it’s just claims that my job is easy. For those, I usually roll my eyes and scroll on without responding. You don’t know how tough it is unless you try teaching, and we can’t effectively explain it to you in words. So why bother?[/quote]

You clearly hate your students,  their parents, and your job.

What plagiarized essay in FCPS actually counts for anything these days? This was a much bigger issue back in the day. Movies made about it with smart kids selling essays. Now anything you do at home is worth zero if it's even given at all or graded. The majority of the work done at home isn't even reviewed by teachers anymore. Are you in FCPS? Doesn't sound like it.

You can't tell a student to put their phone away? I'm pretty sure all schools now have phone policies. Figure out a system to punish for that. It's against school policy to have your phone out in class.

The touching of a student involves moving a student to another desk.

Why were teachers able to figure this out for generations and now they can't? Maybe the old systems were better. [/quote]

DP
It sounds like the essay this teacher called home about counts for something. It also sounds like you want it to count, but then chastise the teacher for holding the student accountable. With you the teacher is in in a dammed if she does, damned if she doesn’t situation. Obviously the paper was reviewed by the teacher.

I’m sure the teacher [i]can[/i] tell the student to put the phone away, but I’m also sure it’s difficult to get some students to follow through without them cussing, arguing and/or doing whatever they can to disrupt the class with the goal of making the teacher’s job more difficult. The same with moving a student to another desk. Do you think every student will just go willingly with a, “Yes ma’am. I’m sorry Mrs/Mr ______”?

For generations teachers had students who were respectful and didn’t want to get to a point where the school was calling home. That’s different from today when some students know that if the school calls home about something like plagiarism they will reach a parent like you who thinks because the teacher called the teacher hates you, the students and the job rather than placing any responsibility with your child.[/quote]

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