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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous] I think scores should be required, period. The "doesn't test well" is a myth. My son with special needs didn't test well until we got him diagnosed, taught him organizational skills and half-medicated (he couldn't take the optimal dose of meds due to medical concerns, but a little was better than nothing). [/quote] So, without significant intervention, your kid didn't test well. It required diagnosis, training, and medication. What about kids without the resources and time and knowledge to get those things? For whom standardized tests don't actually reflect their cognitive abilities or their knowledge?[/quote] PP you replied to. Too bad for them. I think we should have universal healthcare and neuropsychs should be covered by insurance. I think meds should be cheaper. But it’s incredibly frustrating to dumb down the whole process just for a minority of kids. ***I would feel that way EVEN if my kid had bad scores!*** [b]My native country [/b]has no accommodations or services in school for kids with disabilities. My ADHD hindered me significantly. But I do appreciate that they still hold students to high academic standards. It’s all about grades and test scores. No extra-curriculars, hooks or nonsense allowed. [/quote] Yes, yes we know where you are from. Could you put that in the OP next time and every time in these college threads so we can skip them? And feel free to send your child to college in India. [/quote] wow, what a racist statement! I'm from a European country and our school system is as the PP described hers. No EC, hooks, URM, legacy. It's all about test scores! [/quote] Go ahead and restrict your kid to applying only to schools you think have legitimate admissions practices. Guess what? No one else cares. [/quote] Guess what? my kid knows how to play the game and is at a top school by dcum standard. I just laugh at all those of you who claim that your DC is a straight A student but is not a good test taker. Yeah right! Pretty sure that many of these kids have also prepped like crazy but couldn't hack a decent score because guess what? not everyone has the ability to get to 1500s. For all those who argue that GPA is a better indicator of college success, I guess you've never heard of grade inflation and unlimited retakes until students get an A. I'm in a parents facebook group for DC's college, and there are so many parents complaining about their previously straight A students struggling or failing their intro classes.[/quote] Oh no- grade inflation! Do you think you’ve uncovered some great secret that college admissions offices are blind to? You don’t think they track everything? Good grief - if you think colleges are this inept, including the “top” college your child attends, then you should have sent them abroad. And all of those supposed straight A students failing intro classes could also have had test scores - unless you expect us to believe the parents are posting “my straight A test optional student is failing - oh how I wish they took the SAT since it’s a curb against grade inflation”[/quote] No college admission can't track everything. When 60-70% of the class has an A, how are they going to find out who is ready for college rigor and who is not? And I can guarantee some of these kids are not ready, but no one will know until they matriculate. GPA can be gamed very easily and are absolutely not good indicator of college readiness. AP/IB scores yes, GPA no. By the way, if any of the straight A student failing intro classes had a high SAT score, their parents would have screamed about it at the top of the lungs, so no I don't know if these kids were test optional, but I'm pretty sure they were not top SAT scorers or their parents would have mentioned it.[/quote] Everyone knows SAT and ACT is no indication of readiness for college rigor though [/quote] Everyone? You mean you and the fella in the mirror? :roll: [/quote]
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