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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I’ve got kids in public and private. Here’s what I’ve noticed in matriculations between the two. Obviously anecdotal regarding competitive admissions and just trends I’ve observed, not presenting this as universal truths. - First hurdle for admissions are the peers from your school who also applied. - Top public school students have access to ivies (hooked or unhooked). Same with top private students, although it appears a hook here is maybe more necessary because of the strong and privileged peer pool. - Top SLACS appear to prefer private school kids. - Top publics (particularly OOS) might edge toward public school kids. - [b]It looks like unhooked private school kids might have an edge with non-ivy privates. From my kid’s public, admissions to these schools appear mostly driven by sports (hooks). [/b] [/quote] What schools are these? Duke? Vandy? northwestern? Rice?[/quote] This makes sense to me. Based on what I’ve seen in privates.[/quote] No, not from my kid's Big3. The kids getting into these schools all have HYP stats (basically 3.9 and above). [/quote] I'm the poster who shared my observations. Just to be clear, I didn't mean to suggest that you still don't have to have strong stats. My whole point was that between a top stat public student and a top stat private student unhooked private school students appear to have an edge at non-ivy privates. If you believe my first point, a kid's first level of "competition" is their same school peer group and your kid is at a highly selective private with lots of strong students (both hooked and unhooked) that can force an inflated admissions hurdle, but it appears those schools still prefer private school kids to public school kids on the whole. [/quote] My guess is that a lot of this relates to yield. If you’re applying ED, I don’t think public vs private has as much of a preference. Though I know some of those private school relationships still matter. I think the large publics probably often get better yield from public high schools whereas private colleges may be more likely to lose public school kids to lower cost publics. Brokering might also establish a likely yield for a private school kid. This is all, of course, speaking in gross generalities. [/quote] Brokering from the private high schools helps these schools with (1) yield and (2) sussing out viable new parent donors who might not rise to the 7 figure level but would easily give the school an extra $50k a year (w/10 yr pledges) - as these parents simply replace the giving that they give to private schools with the new universities. There’s a lot more that goes into this than just stats. And it doesn’t have to be some VIP /celeb level family either. Largest source of new giving money for all of these universities is not the “big”donations- but it’s from the upper class working families (big law; doctors; business owners). That’s the holy grail. I know firsthand that this definitely makes a difference at schools like Vanderbilt, Wash U, USC and even Duke. [/quote]
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