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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It sounds like more like $100,000. [/quote]

Who cares? I’m a teacher so I will earn if I move from teaching to ups driving.[/quote]

Great!  Go for it!
Literally no one and nothing is stopping you.[/quote]

Oh but of course the PP doesn’t really mean it. I’m sure driving a package delivery truck is beneath them. I mean this is such worthless, unskilled labor we’re talking about. How dare these drivers make a wage comparable to any white color job.

Also, I find it interesting that according to so many other posters on DCUM, knowledge workers getting promotions and increased perks like flexible hours/remote work, is just the economy at play valuing their skill set. But when a subset of industry workers realize there is a demand for their labor (and let’s be real, customers expect someone reliable, coherent, and sober to safely drive and actually deliver their packages on time too), then the wage increase is the result of mafia like negotiating. :eyeroll:[/quote]

I’m the teacher and I do mean it. I do manual labor all the time. I installed our kitchen, I lug stuff around the house all the time.  I like being outside and doing things. I’m a married woman btw. I have always thought if I were to quit I would want to try usps on a walking route. Keeps you for active and outside. I hate office work, it isn’t a good match for me.

BUT to those posters who believe that society pays for necessary jobs it is untrue. Society pays for jobs that are typically male labor and does not value traditional work as much. That said people were a little unhappy when schools were closed for covid. Capitalism doesn’t work without strong regulation and even then it still operates within the framework of tradition.

Those who have been traditionally left out: poc, women remain left out by capitalism because the work they traditionally do IS less valued. It is less valued precisely because the people who traditionally held those jobs are less valued within our  male white focused society. It isn’t that the job isn’t important. It is because we decided white men were like gentry and then we over valued white collar jobs within our society.

Capitalism won’t fix that until people change their views.

So maybe I will stop teaching preschool in the county schools and start working for UPS. At the very least I will dream about it. 
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This is an argument for people in those undervalued fields to unionize and fight for better conditions. It’s not a reason to demand UPS drivers make less money.[/quote]

The UPS strike got a lot of national and government attention because the workers have a male, white, joe the plumber image. These are the people that work "hard" /s. Striking home health aides will not get this type of attention. And no, UPS workers do not deserve to make more than home health aides.[/quote]

They need to get a union. [/quote]

you are missing the nuance--national advocacy is important as well. [/quote]

NP and it's totally about the union.  Fed Ex workers (same white Joe plumber types) doing basically the same job have a far less favorable setup where the Company subcontracts out deliveries and those drivers are paid far less.[/quote]

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