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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]What has opposing these things done to help you “solve” the problem of kids being trans? [/quote]

The medical establishment needs to provide care based on science and research not ideology. When the care deviates from science trouble will ensue. Part of what also needs to be done is understanding why there has been a surge of teenagers identifying as transgender especially girls when it used to be very rare primarily affecting males. A good start would be the US adopting a more cautious approach similar to other countries. A child's future fertility and sexual function is potentially on the line along with other permanent effects. Why would you not want protocols based on strong science and research?

"A series of Europe-based systematic reviews of evidence for the benefits and risks of puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones have shown a low certainty of benefits. Specifically, longitudinal data collected and analyzed by public health authorities in Finland, Sweden, the Netherlands and England have concluded that the [b]risk-benefit ratio of youth gender transition ranges from unknown to unfavorable."[/b]

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You are arguing with people not able to critically assess your points because they have fully bought into the idea that if you dont trans the kids, they will die. They think that if you don't rush to surgery, the kid will commit suicide. So when you say, hold up, the evidence of this being helpful is weak and the evidence of it being harmful is much stronger, they can't comprehend how that is a reasonable and indeed compassionate concern.  They literally think these kids are dropping like flies, dying off due to a lack of affirmation-- surgical and otherwise. [/quote]

Way to project. We don’t all think that. [/quote]

What would be your reason for not wanting treatments to be based on the best available research, then?  I could see if you are so terrified that kids will kill themselves that you wouldn't care that much about efficacy of treatment because you believe the alternative is death. It is much less clear why you'd be supportive of treatments that the best research shows tends to be ineffective and comes with very high health risks. [/quote]

I do want treatments based on studies and clinical knowledge. I don’t think you are qualified to make decisions or even treatment suggestions for other people. Unless you’re a doctor specializing in this, your opinion isn’t needed. [/quote]

You're the one that is backing a specific regime of treatments.  [/quote]

No, I’m not. What I’m doing is challenging your poorly informed ideas. What I hear from people like you, and the other people obsessed with trans kids does not even closely resemble the trans people I know in real life. You are on this rampage, and haven’t even noticed the difference in a social transition vs a medical one. You think there’s a one-size-fits-all care approach to non-binary and trans people, when I know that is not true. You are claiming to be concerned about kids, but I find that claim to be dubious. If you cared about what this kind of rhetoric does to trans kids, you’d shut your mouth. You’d realize that “opposing” treatment protocols is nothing more than you spewing your non-medical opinion on the internet. It’s not actually helping anyone. It makes the conversation harder to have when everyone thinks they get a say in how trans people are allowed to exist. You don’t get a say. No one asked you. [/quote]

It may come as a brutal shock to you, but stamping your feet and demanding that people don’t think, don’t read, don’t have opinions, and basically act as intelligently as a potted plant is not really going to convince people you have the winning argument.

There are extremely detailed articles and books written by very good investigative journalists on this topic. Hannah Barnes’s book is getting shortlisted for prestigious awards for investigative journalism. Well-respected mainstream publications are discussing the lack of evidence for medical transition of children. But you maintain that those books shouldn’t be published, that people shouldn’t read, that newspapers shouldn’t have even mildly critical articles, that all dissent on this topic be silenced unless you are the treating physician of a trans person or the trans child themselves?

Here is an answer: No. Absolutely not. I will never, ever turn off my brain the way you are demanding. [/quote]

Do you get legal advice from your dentist? Tax advice from your lawn guy?

No one gives a shit what you think, and you believing your opinion matters does actual harm. [/quote]

Opinions do matter, though. Opinions often turn into laws. So when we express opinions about trans surgeries on minors, politicians take note and they make laws.

This is why you are spending your time trying to silence us and trying to convince people that a small elite group can make ideologically driven decisions on trans, but the common folk can shove it unless they are a doctor (who agrees). [/quote]

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