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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Fertility isn't magically cut off at 35. It is only slightly more difficult to get pregnant at 36 than it is at 34. Let's look at what the experts said in 1982, way, way, way before IVF was commonplace and way before our little incel troll was a gleam in his mother's eye.

Likelihood of Conceiving in 12 Months by Age:

30-34 years old - 63%
35-39 years old - 52%

Source here is the Guttmacher Institute. Would be interesting to see if the person claiming fertility is over the day of your 35th birthday has a better source. [/quote]

No it doesn’t magically cut off but there are hundreds of credible studies showing that on average fertility begins rapidly decline around your mid thirties. For those who want biological children (and particularly those who are not willing/financially able to pursue IVF) to just assume they’ll be in the 50 % able to conceive with a year without assistance post 35 seems pretty foolhardy.[/quote]
Right, but you do realize that it's not IVF or no baby at all, right? There are loads of things between IVF that hopeful parents can try, and in fact, doctors will recommend before IVF. It's not "Either you are in the lucky 52% or you have to do IVF."

You are being absurd. Just admit you are wrong.[/quote]

Please share these loads of in between alternatives would-be parents of “advanced medical age” can/should try to have a biological child. After trying for over a year we visited 3 fertility specialists at ages 38 (DH) and 37 (DW),  specifically looking for alternatives to IVF, and were told by each that in most cases for couples post 35 that we’re having trouble conceiving IVF was the only good/high chance option.[/quote]
So that actually sounds like you had some fertility issues as opposed to just decreased fertility due to age. Unfortunately that happens sometimes and I'm sorry you experienced it. However, just because you were not a good candidate for something like fertility drugs or IUI does not mean that other women do not successfully undergo those treatments before immediately jumping to IVF.[/quote]

It's not that PP had fertility issues. Everyone female's fertility decreases and by 35 they are half as fertile as they were in their early 20s.

When you quote likelihood statistics but keep in mind that those are averages. For some the likelihood to conceive in 12 months at 35 is 90 percent. For others its 10 percent. And it averages to about 50. But it doesn't mean everyones chance is 50 percent.

That is why -for those who want to have a large family - to marry earlier than later because biology doesn't care about your life plans.
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