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Let me start by saying I'm not US-educated, so I have no hands on experience on this education system.

For an outsider like me, tests look like tests, Cogat in elementary looks just like the SAT test for college or  the GRE test for post grad.

Are you suppose to also not study for those?

[b]Where's the guide to know for which test to prep and for which you are not allowed? [/b]Not joking, I just don't get the US education system.[/quote]

There's no such thing.. This topic keeps popping up at least once a year.  Prep all you want for any test you want.  The concept of "not allowed", was invented by some clever lawyer White mom (now stay at home) to dissuade the Asians from prepping.  White moms don't want their precious offspring to take time off from ballet, soccer or other such trivial pursuits to prep and compete against the Asians and Nigerians, hence the misinformation campaign.  It's like 'Donald Trump won the 2020 election'.[/quote]

Any exam test that tests knowledge you should have accrued through education- SAT/SOL/etc prep and studying are expected and encouraged, whereas a test that determines aptitude, like the Cogat, is not supposed to be prepped for.

Do a thought exercise: if you there was a way you could prepare in advance for an IQ test, learning what to expect and tips or tricks to improve your score - is it really reflecting your ability?

Personally, I don't care if you prep or not as long as your kid can handle an AAP program on their own without external pressure from you as a parent. [/quote]

My kids are long done with AAP and I was just browsing these forums with nothing to do.. Both did well on IQ tests but we prepped anyways just to be sure.  One is at a T20 college via TJ.  The other is at base HS.

My 2c..  Every kid at FCPS should have access to AAP level classes if they want to.  It's a tragedy that we have to fight for a decent education.  AAP is not that much more difficult and every parent should try to get their kids into that program.  Academically, it's curriculum is better than that of most private schools in this area, especially in science and math.  [b]By getting into AAP you are also in a class where most of the kids/parents are academics-focused and avoid the bully-types.  If that's the environment you want, get in by all means.  Don't worry about whether or not your kid can handle AAP.  They will adapt.  [/b]

Prep only helps the borderline kids.. Smart kids will score high regardless of prep.  Not-so-smart kids won't regardless of prep.  it's the borderline kids that may fall to the right side of the wall with prep.  Go for it!  There's a large DCUM population that believes prep is cheating unless they approve of it (at which point they will call it enrichment).  This is the same crowd that doesn't hesitate to spend thousands on doctors to get their kids extra time on tests, score that extra 200 points on the SAT (while openly promoting test optional), and tutor them to wazoo.  Ignore that noise. Good luck![/quote]

Unfortunately, most kids prep even smart kids which makes it harder for smart kids to test as gifted if they don't prep compared to the smart kids that do prep. It's just a matter of having a level playing field and these tests fail to guarantee that.[/quote]

If your kids are well beyond ES, it may not be as good as you remember.  Now 20% of all kids get in and not all are subject to the same cutoffs due to more focus on local school norms, equity, etc.  But the hardest thing for most kids in high SES areas may well be getting in, hence the need to prep as a little extra insurance.  10-20 points may matter. Or not. Because the process now is shrouded in "holistic" mystery. [/quote]

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