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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]My prediction is that colleges in other countries (in Europe? Canada? Australia?) will take the places of US colleges in world rankings within the next decade or so. The colleges where performance is still the measure for getting in and they can keep academic standards high and therefore graduation prospects really good will become much more in demand. High performing kids will be applying elsewhere, not here.[/quote]

Soooo - colleges are not ranked based on the students that attend but on the faculty who teach there. Your argument makes no sense, especially when one of the changing factors is that US schools are taking more and more international students.  A great example of this is in graduate school - where most top US STEM programs have fewer than 50% of their graduate students as US citizens.[/quote]

Academics want to work at universities that have a high quality student base. It’s a lot less work and more fulfilling for the academics to teach those students. Not to mention the fact that grad students do most of the heavy lifting in academia.

The shift might not happen overnight, but the good academics will go where the good students are.[/quote]

Are you a professor? I’m an academic and I would disagree. [b]Most want to work with the best grad students and at institutions that provide the best research opportunities[/b]. High achieving undergrads are a bonus, but honestly most of my colleagues at R1 institutions are not there because of teaching.[b] Most tenure track faculty will do anything to lower their course load, especially if they have to teach undergrads.[/b][/quote]

I don't see how you are disagreeing with me?  Previous posters said that international colleges would be taking over US ones - do you agree with this?  I am saying it is faculty and output that affect ratings. Great professors choose schools that are great in their own field (which varies widely by subject from USNWR rankings), where they get the most support and freedom to do their work, where colleagues are strong, and graduate students are strong. As you say - they'd prefer not to teach undergrad (although some do like this). Do you really think the changes in college admissions are affecting the undergraduate enrollment in a way that will result in professors at US universities to leave to go abroad instead? I just don't see this happening. [/quote]

I agree with you. I was disagreeing with the PP.[/quote]

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