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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I teach in a Title 1 school and the rigor and workload is definitely lacking. Teachers are basically begging students to show up and hand in any work. If one of my high fliers went to a top school, the workload would crush them. [/quote]

This is a helpful perspective. I teach a course at a "directional" university and the students who struggle the most each term seem to be from title 1 schools. It's frustrating because it's a very easy course. Yet I still find myself giving extensions because a good 25% of the students simply cannot be bothered to turn materials in on time (if at all). [/quote]

They lack discipline and work ethic.  That’s why they should serve in the Army or Marine Corps before they go to college. [/quote]

I was a LMC rural school admit to an Ivy, I had a very hard time and I of course majored in a “hard” major because I needed a practical degree that would translate to a job when I graduated.

Student loans for law or med school would mean borrowing more than my parents house was worth — completely unfathomable.

I really wish my school had made me do a year at a prep school — I know that happens to a few people who are admitted, maybe it’s something they do for recruiter athletes?  I don’t know who would pay for it — my parents certainly didn’t have the money, but I wish they had looked at my transcript — realized my school offered zero AP or IB courses and realized even though I was smart and tested well, I had never been challenged academically in my school career.  Suddenly with real expectations and the need triage, i prioritized the wrong things: I used to just read the text then do the homework — I was very bad at taking class notes and our lectures were generally useless anyways. But college classes often have limited text resources and the lectures ARE the course, and I couldn’t capture what was said in a useful way. [/quote]
Thanks for sharing your experience. I went to a low rated u, but we had a couple of AP classes which I took.  Even so, I went to a no name state u due to finances, and my SAT scores were horrible (I never took a practice exam so I had never seen an exam like this prior to taking it). I also grew up to lower income immigrant parents who don't speak English.

But, even at my no name state u, there were students there from MC white families who couldn't pass the English and math placement exams, so they had to take remedial English and math courses.  I was shocked.  I thought that anyone who went to college, even a no name state u, had to be able to pass an easy English and math exam.  The students I know who didn't pass it were recruited athletes.

As an immigrant, I had no knowledge about recruited athletes back then. I thought everyone at college must be fairly smart.  I was super naive.  This was back in the 80s.[/quote]

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