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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I think it will vary. Some schools will be happy to just enroll the best students and other will drop aa in favor of economic diversity [/quote]

You make it sound like wanting diversity is at odds with enrolling the best students. I find these assumptions to be suspect. Like the posters who define merit as whatever benefits them the most.[/quote]

The way diversity is defined and implemented today, yes, it is absolutely at odds at enrolling the best students. There is such a huge skills gap between the average URM and non URM applicant, that there is a serious shortage of equivalently qualified URM applicants in the application pipeline. If a college insists on getting anything close to proportional representation despite this, then by definition they have to pick lower qualified URM students to fill their class. The only way to claim that diversity does not affect quality today, is to redefine the very meaning of the word merit to something nonsensical, like Harvard did by introducing spurious variables like the personality ratings into the mix.

Also in every country where diversity is actually present, it has led to destruction of social cohesion, social trust and increase in friction. The former Yugoslavia, Sri Lanka, Sudan, Myanmar being some examples) Diversity advocate have only recently recognized this because now they are insisting on "inclusion" as being another responsibility of the non URM pool. This is just code for non URM's having to walk on eggshells, so as not to trigger or piss off URM's on campus. It's a fool's errand. Human kind is tribal by nature and just like diversity brought strife all over the world, it is destroying America's campus environment today.[/quote]

So what is your solution? Whine endlessly about it? Or have no diversity and every racial group sticks to themselves? It’s too late for that. This country is diverse and we’d better continue to figure out ways to get along and include everyone because diversity isn’t going anywhere.[/quote]

The solution is pretty simple.

1) Stop lying to the American people and acknowledge that the big skill gap is not due to systemic racism, but lack of cultural capital in the URM community, most of which is directly under their control. 
2) Expect better from URM communities instead of molly coddling them. Delayed gratification, better work ethic, stronger focus on academics, stronger families,  less out of wedlock child births for a start. None of this needs any change in attitude from non URM's
3) Intervene in elementary school to create a bigger pool of eligible candidates
3) Forget recruiting for Diversity. Recruit for the same standards 
That's hard work, instead of yelling "systemic racism" whereever you see racial disparity, which is the lazy way out[/quote]

DEI is making matters worse, not better.  I have black friends who won't go to a black doctor. [/quote]

And because of racism, I am black and exclusively use black doctors - outcomes are better because care is taken seriously and pain/symptoms are not brushed off:

https://www.aamc.org/news-insights/how-we-fail-black-patients-pain
https://hbr.org/2018/08/research-having-a-black-doctor-led-black-men-to-receive-more-effective-care
https://www.michiganmedicine.org/health-lab/minority-patients-benefit-having-minority-doctors-thats-hard-match-make
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4843483/
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That's fine then. Have blacks and anybody else who don't meet the same academic and scholastic criteria for Medical schools as the general pool candidates admitted to a nurse practitioner or a similar program and label it so. Whoever wants to can visit them can and enjoy the "empathy" factor and cheaper prices for some services.. Don't call it MD unless they are of the same academic caliber.. They clearly are not, even after enjoying four years of undergrad AA preferences, now they need graduate AA preferences to get ahead? That's insulting[/quote]

What drivel! [/quote]

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