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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]So here’s the thing. I reckon most liberals would consider me a conservative. In fact a lot of liberals have told me they think I’m a secret conservative. I’m not, I voted for Biden, but I agree with Robby Soave that wokeness is something you know when you see or whatever. I don’t get trans/non-binary stuff (but I try to be respectful and use correct pronouns), I think it’s weird that there are so many trans kids, I despise inclusive language…you’d think I’m the perfect customer for Bethany’s book.

But no, even though I probably agree with Bethany on a lot, I think she’s a complete shit for brains. It’s true, I can’t define wokeness but I also didn’t spend a year writing a book about it. You’d think someone who wrote an entire chapter defining woke would have come up with a 15 second explanation. Like, Bethany at no point when writing the book did you and Karol think “Hey during the media tour we’ll probably be asked to define this super vague word. We should have a brief and pithy explanation”? No, you didn’t, because you and Karol are both effing stupid. But Karol didn’t shit the bed today on live TV so we’ll leave her out of this.

On top of just generally being stupid, she’s an attention seeker. This woman loves to be talked about badly on line so she can pull song and dance numero uno from the MAGA playbook: Martyrdom. Bethany loves to tweet “play stupid games win stupid prizes,” but then when she does something dumb and people call her on it, she is SHOCKED. She’s an edge lord and grade A troll who loves to fuel the outrage Olympics. Instead of just tweeting something normal in spring of 2020 like “Hey maybe we should evaluate how lockdowns will affect kids and the economy long term” she literally tweeted “call me a grandma killer I’m going to the zoo” and was surprised that people were like “wtf?”

And remember, kids. Bethany claimed to be anti-Trump until she realized being MAGA brought more clicks. So she was vocally pro-Trump all through the 2020 election. And then on January 6 she pretended she had never been pro-Trump. The end. [/quote]

I don't think most liberals would consider you a conservative - I think most of us feel more or less exactly like you do. A little baffled by all the kids who are suddenly changing genders or are non-binary, don't love "they" language or having to announce your pronouns.[b] But I think at the same time we also don't think that trans kids - or ANYONE - should be hunted down and persecuted, and their parents sent to jail, and drag queens dragged into the streets, and all that. [/b]Like we can have a little twitchiness about where we are in the process of all this without becoming insane reactionaries - or, in most cases, hateful, craven opportunists - like Republicans are.

I think Hegel got it right - there's thesis, antithesis, synthesis. We're at the antithesis stage of all this right now. Eventually it will all just settle into a normal, natural pattern and more or less be NBD. But right now the Rs are all inflamed, and Ds like us - who I think are the majority - are mostly biding our time, biting our tongues, and trying not to make anything worse.[b] I'd definitely rather be a little eye rolly about pronouns than have books about gay people stripped from libraries while parents of trans kids worry about their kids being taken away and themselves being sent to jail.[/b]

Meanwhile Very Online people continue to be Very Online. I guess the thing is that the Ds aren't ruled by the Very Online people - the leaders are moderates. Republicans live and die by what the Very Online mob dictates.[/quote]

Thank you for the bolded- I roll my eyes at many things on both sides but I don't think they need to be regulated in the extreme way that Rs want to do it.  I roll my eyes at the beloved religiousness that Rs love no much but I don't think we should ban it (just practice it away from me!).  I roll my eyes a little at liberal college students who protest sweatshops while wearing clothes from the GAP.  I roll my eyes at people who routinely get abortions for birth control (even though the number of people doing so is vastly overinflated by the GOP) but I don't think that means they should get the death penalty (or that we should regulate aboriotn in. way that people who need healthcare are then affected).[/quote]
No one is having abortions for birth control. No one.

Do you not know any current college students? They’re not wearing Gap. They’re wearing weird little niche brands you never heard of. They’re wearing thrifted clothes. Actually they might literally be wearing our old Gap clothing, but they’re usually not wearing new, at least not the ones who care enough to protest.[/quote]

Way to be super literal. It may be a dated reference, but the concept still applies. [/quote]
The concept still applies? If we’re not already perfect we can’t ask businesses for progress? That’s your “concept”?[/quote]

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