Toggle navigation
Toggle navigation
Home
DCUM Forums
Nanny Forums
Events
About DCUM
Advertising
Search
Recent Topics
Hottest Topics
FAQs and Guidelines
Privacy Policy
Your current identity is: Anonymous
Login
Preview
Subject:
Forum Index
»
Political Discussion
Reply to "DeSantis was Asst. Urinalysis Coordinator in the Navy"
Subject:
Emoticons
More smilies
Text Color:
Default
Dark Red
Red
Orange
Brown
Yellow
Green
Olive
Cyan
Blue
Dark Blue
Violet
White
Black
Font:
Very Small
Small
Normal
Big
Giant
Close Marks
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]And, this is "news?" Man, liberals sure are scared of DeSantis. [/quote] I’m scared. Should I not be? He is also a scared control freak. Only a frightened man forbids saying certain words or reading certain books. Strong people don’t do that. DP[/quote] A control freak who is also building a private military that answers only to him. https://www.newsweek.com/ron-desantis-100m-private-florida-army-raises-questions-1786877[/quote] Oh, FFS. You are suffering from paranoia. This, from the Brennan Center for Justice in Dec. 2021...... https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/reestablishing-floridas-state-guard-wont-give-desantis-private-army In practice, though, what DeSantis is proposing is unlikely to pose the threat that his opponents fear: that of a powerful, private state army that can operate as a kind of National Guard free from federal control. For starters, a “state defense force” — also known as a state military, state military force, state militia, state military reserve, or, in Florida’s case, a state guard — is not a new or unusual concept. Both state defense forces and the National Guard are modern versions of the “Militia” contemplated by the Constitution. State defense forces are authorized by Congress under 32 U.S.C. § 109. Twenty-two states, including California, Texas, and New York, and the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico currently maintain state defense forces, and many more states have laws that allow for their creation. In practice, state defense forces tend to be small, auxiliary forces trained in specialized areas such as search and rescue operations and used to support their states’ National Guard. The defense force DeSantis has in mind is no exception. He is calling for a force of 200 volunteers and asking for $3.5 million from the state legislature to train and equip them. The Florida National Guard, by contrast, consists of nearly 12,000 military personnel, employs an additional 450 civilians, and receives more than $454 million in federal funds and about $18 million in state funding annually. There is thus little risk of a state defense force serving as a significant counterweight to the federally-regulated National Guard. Nor could it somehow replace the Guard; under 32 U.S.C § 104(f), states cannot disband their National Guard without the president’s consent or even reduce their Guard’s strength below the minimum set by the president. And, from your link: the purpose...... "to help with emergency response measures and to back up the Florida National Guard." "The Florida Defence Force, later renamed the State Guard, was formed in 1941 shortly before the U.S. entered World War II, after President Franklin D. Roosevelt federalized the existing National Guard. In 1947 the unit was disbanded, after which it would lay dormant for over 70 years. A number of U.S. states have state defense forces in some form, many of them geared towards assisting with disaster relief—a major issue in hurricane-prone Florida. Governor DeSantis announced the Florida State Guard would be reformed in December 2021, and the following year the state legislature approved $10 million to raise a force of 400 soldiers. Speaking in June 2022 DeSantis said: "The Florida State Guard will be comprised of Floridians, and it will be assigned to assist and help only Floridians. "It will not be subject to be mobilized by the federal government, and the federal government cannot impose policies or penalties on the Florida State Guard." Appearing before the Florida Senate's Appropriations Committee, Chris Spencer, DeSantis' director of policy and budget, said the enlarged State Guard would support the National Guard." [/quote] Oh FFS YOURSELF. This is some cockamamie bullshit. He's replicating the Florida National Guard, [i]which already exists and already is there to serve the purpose.[/i] But he's a power hungry control freak who hates federal government. Stop covering for the man. This is a completely nonsensical move, which will unnecessarily waste hundreds of millions of Florida taxpayer dollars.[/quote] Hey, pp. Cry more. By my count, there are at least 20 states with ACTIVE state defense forces.... some in blue states like California and New York. Guess these governors are wasting hundreds of millions of taxpayers dollars. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_defense_force And, all states allow it..... Title 32 U.S. Code § 109 subsection (c) provides for these SDFs. In addition to its National Guard, if any, a State, the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico, the District of Columbia, Guam, or the Virgin Islands may, as provided by its laws, organize and maintain defense forces. A defense force established under this section may be used within the jurisdiction concerned, as its chief executive (or commanding general in the case of the District of Columbia) considers necessary, but it may not be called, ordered, or drafted into the armed forces.[/quote] California's Guard is part of the National Guard as are most of the others.[/quote] Educate yourself. Many of the others are not part of the NG and are separate entities controlled solely by the state governor. Congress passed authorization for State Defense Forces in 1954, and since then several states have established State Guards or State Defense Forces or State Military Reserves. These are usually also provided for in each state's statutes. In SC this is Title 25, Chapter 3: Military, Civil Defense and Veterans Affairs: SOUTH CAROLINA STATE GUARD. [b]In each state with recognized State Guards, the State Guard belongs to the office of the Governor; sometimes they are separate forces available to the governor, and sometimes auxiliaries or reserves of the state's National Guard and are directed by the state's Adjutant General. Some states (Colorado, Oklahoma, and Pennsylvania) have State Guards or State Military reserves not recognized in statutes; others (i.e., Florida) are recognized in statutes but not yet officially by the present state government. State Guards sometimes duplicate the role of the National Guard, sometimes have completely separate and distinct roles, or serve their state somewhere in between. Many serve in Civil Defense or Emergency Management roles.[/b] http://www.nettally.com/hgowan/state_guards.html#:~:text=These%20are%20the%20Alaska%20State%20Defense%20Force%2C%20Alabama,Guard%2C%20Texas%20State%20Guard%2C%20and%20Virginia%20Defense%20Force.[/quote]
Options
Disable HTML in this message
Disable BB Code in this message
Disable smilies in this message
Review message
Search
Recent Topics
Hottest Topics