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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Germany is wanting this war to end…..

European support is waning, so is US popular support.

Time to end this miserable war.[/quote]

Look, you are just some Russian troll, or possibly brainwashed by that compromised idiot Tucker Carlson.

Either way, your point is simply wrong.

The “industry” of fighting aggression, war crimes, genocide is actually that. It’s an industry. It is built into the educational DNA of any serious history, foreign relations, law, or philosophy graduate from a US or European school since 1980.

These people rule the EU and to a (sadly) smaller extent some of our foreign policy establishment here in the US.  Beyond that, the EU has built into its governmental structure the requirement to pursue war crimes - and it’s now engaged in exactly that.  The EU can simply NOT step away from pursuing war crimes and the overall aggression in Ukraine, without violating fundamental laws, or losing all moral credibility.  Won’t happen.

Whether he knew it or not, Putin did “burn his ships,” just like Cortez.  There is no going back to the status quo ante bellum.

Everything Russia has done since 2/22 is a massive “trigger” to almost the entire western establishment. Every moral, historical, trip-wire and code-word of “never again” has been triggered.  The west is “all-in” in the war to defeat Russia, and there is no going back, abandoning Ukraine, letting war crimes slide or cutting a high-level deal to let crimes go unpunished, in exchange for any degree of peace.

This all may sound a bit “pie in the sky” dreaming, but it’s not.  It is the current reality.  Look at European polls. Look at the rhetoric of European leaders and foreign ministers.  A lot of these nuances never get through our watered-down media , especially if you do not go out and actively look for it, but it’s there.  I know the research of legitimate news sources will back me up on this. There is not as much political “wiggle room” to end this war as people want to believe, or that Trump foolishly thinks.

There are things that are politically possible, and things that are not. Going backward to the world of 1/22 is not possible.  That bridge was burned, irrevocably.

As to the situation on the ground:

- we have now disclosed we have already trained Ukrainian pilots on our old (really old) F-16 fighter jets.  We own tens of thousands of these.  And plenty of extra munitions to arm them for decades.

Biden stated he is NOT giving F16s to Ukraine.

Not yet, anyway.

Your move, Vlad.  But never forget:  The Hague awaits you.
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You say this but post Hitler, the EU or the “west” has never prosecuted crimes against humanity committed by “the west”. Iraq? Libya? Yemen? Afghanistan? LatAm? The West has been massively hypocritical in calling out crimes committed by some people but never by others. So let’s not talk nonsense about the systemic impulse to prosecute crimes against humanity because it does not exist, never did.[/quote]

You say that as if your line-up of "victims" weren't absolutely brutal terror regimes and dictatorships responsible for killing far more of their own people than the US ever did.

Go away with your half-baked whataboutism.  You are seriously missing the mark.[/quote]

Right….because life for Iraqis, afghans and Libyans are SOOO much better post American invasion. Really what you’re saying is don’t count brown Muslim victims, they are ok to kill.[/quote]

Those "brown victims" died at the hands of their fellow countrymen.  Iraqis, Libyans, Afghans - they were handed an opportunity to choose a new future and a new path forward for themselves.  They instead chose violence and killing each other.   🤷‍♂️[/quote]

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