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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Physical hazing or property damage? Both are bad but for me there’s a huge difference.

[b]If it’s anything physical or humiliating, [/b]I wouldn't sugarcoat. Tell him there’s a trend in kids secretly recording these rites and to imagine the world watching a tape of him forcing this on others next year. Having his future ruined and family embarrassed may motivate him if the moral qualms aren’t enough.

You might also tell him that half of his future dating pool won’t touch a frat guy who hazed others with a ten foot pole. [/quote]

Hazing goes way beyond just "humiliating."   It can be violent and deadly.   Watch that PBS documentary or the "Breath Nolan Breath" linked earlier in this thread.[/quote]

Taking the worst incidents and projecting it onto hazing as a whole isn't a way to get a realistic picture of what's going on. We have no idea what OP's son is going through and, in terms of actual risk, how it compares to - say - getting in a car.

Could be that there's very real danger here or it could be that there's very limited risk of significant harm. [/quote]

This is apologist nonsense, disguised as "sensible" talk about comparative risk. And it's insidiously horrible. If you read what OP said is actually going on, according to her son, and you can still say as above that "we have no idea" etc.- you really are a vile apologist. You also know that the hazing will worsen
 If theyre starting with mass, extended vomiting in which they must wallow. That's just the appetizer. You, PP, are either willfully ignorant or a frat fan with blinders on. [/quote]

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