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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]That's terrible people say rude things. Your daughter sounds amazing. Congrats on her acceptances![/quote]

I sincerely doubt that anyone says what OP is claiming, and I’ve been active in both private and public high schools. No one says that[/quote]
Sure they say that.  Maybe not as much to their face.  Kid in my high school got accepted to an Ivy, was ranked somewhere around 5 in the class.  No one else in the class attended an Ivy or anything close.[/quote]

When my daughter was applying to colleges we used to go over the Naviance graphs. The one ivy acceptance (Yale) in my kids school in the previous 3-4 years was from a kid of African immigrants.  Had excellent grades (very close to a 4.0 UW) but a 1090 on the SAT (before TO).  All of the other kids with a 4.0 and 1500+ SAT scores were rejected. [/quote]

Similar situation at my kid's HS.[/quote]

No one is getting admitted to Yale with a 1090 SAT.

Stop it.[/quote]

DP here.  URMs absolutely have lower test scores and GPAs for admittance to T25.  You have to be really, really, really out of the loop not to know that.  White kids and Asian kids would never get admitted with most of the URM scores and GPAs. It is not good or bad, it just is. [/quote]

You must not know many smart URM kids at t25 schools because the majority of URM kids getting in these schools are just as accomplished and academically gifted. Most are not even AA (from Africa and the Caribbean) and can hold their own against any high stats group.  My DC was waitlisted at our state flagship and ended up at a t20 with a 4.6 gpa (IB diploma) and competitive SATs (700+ high  math score). My cousin’s  DC has an almost perfect SAT score and was deferred from Princeton EA this year. Both have leadership and great ECs.  My cousin’s kid is an athlete but admittedly no recruited for the sport. These are not first generation AA kids. They work hard and they are not taking your precious spots at any of these top schools.

No pressure over here on my child to prove anything to anyone. I wouldn’t about other people’s kids and focus on a good strategy for the success of my own child.[/quote]

The discovery in the Harvard case disagrees [/quote]
PP here- Good for the few kids that got in with those scores. The two kids I described above did not apply to Harvard for various reasons. There is some self selection going on and it says more about those kids with low scores who applied than the pool of all eligible and qualified URM students. Maybe they are exceptional in ways that can’t be measured by test scores and gpas.[/quote]

Good for the few kids who got in?  How are they supposed to react when after their MDs, JDs, or CPAs, no one ever calls on them?  [/quote]

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