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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]All these folks can keep being on their moral high whatever, and I'm gonna keep taking my shot. I'll

worrry about gains when the that tome comes. But for now, the food noise is gone, and I'm maintaining the weight loss. But it's still killing me that no one  makes these same arguments about pharmaceuticals for other ailments.

What is the deal?  Why are some of you so concerned about how fat people lose or not lose weight?

I feel glorious when I see number on the scale drop lower and lower and I don't have to $hitz but live my life like normal people. No constant food  cravings, no bad foods, I can eat whatever I want within moderation. No food is bad. I love it.

So all these naysayers, keep talking,  while us folks taking these meds reap the benefits and hopefully great health.[/quote]

It’s pretty funny. They thought they could shame us out of being fat, and now they think they can shame us out of taking the medicine that makes us lose weight.

The truth is that they don’t like that we can become thin and be like them without misery. They were okay with weight loss surgery (although they still called it the easy way out). It leaves scars and requires forever sacrifice of a proper functioning stomach. It changes your eating permanently. Those terms were acceptable for them, an adequate punishment for our former obesity. Ozempic and similar are too painless and we don’t deserve to lose weight painlessly. [/quote]

Stating the cause of obesity for most people is not fat shaming. If you are the exception, then disregard. If you showed this thread to someone from another country, their head would explode.[/quote]

No, the heads of the educated and smart ones would not explode.

I get that’s not you, though. [/quote]

Since you are so educated and smart, please tell us why the American obesity rate has more than doubled in the last 40 years or so?[/quote]

I’m not that PP, but the fact that obesity has risen dramatically in the US and is in the process of rising globally tells us that the cause isn’t a global loss of moral rectitude, will power, or knowledge of what healthy food looks like. It certainly has to do with the food environment, but maybe there are other causes as well. I am a public health practitioner, and we’ve been doing education and support for weight loss for decades. Whether you think it should work or not is immaterial - it doesn’t work. Any health intervention that fails when the vast majority of people try to do it is a failure.

I happen to be a chubby person who can get to simply overweight through diet, so I do. Intermittent fasting works for me. My husband is a different matter - he is driven to eat like I am driven to breathe. Medical interventions (surgery and now medication) have kept him healthy and active and well for over ten years, and I’m very grateful.[/quote]

Obviously something has changed. The numbers are staggering. I knew someone similar to your husband who had gastric bypass. This guy could eat 2 large pizzas and not feel full...absolutely amazing. I'm not talking about anomalys. I'm referring to literally over 100 million people who didn't used to be obese. What changed? Previous posters suggested that maybe genetics were the culprit or maybe an infection in the intestine. Do these theories sound plausible?[/quote]

What changed is people have extremely easy, cheap, and abundant access to as much food as they desire.  This was never the case before.  There wasn’t doordash, Uber eats, a pizza place, mdDs, aisles and aisles of snack foods, junk food out at work all the time.  People are inherently lazy, and want the tastiest food with the least possible effort and most will overeat it if it is there in abundance.  [/quote]

Oh no! You are going to be advised of being dumb and a fat shamer in less than 2 minutes! I'm surprised they haven't posted any links to some pseudo science nonsense. It doesn't take a PhD from Harvard to figure this out. [/quote]

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