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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][mastodon][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I thought all of the colleges knew about and respected the rigor of the big 3.  Or are publics getting more rigorous and now colleges believe they are comparing apples to apples?[/quote]

The issue is that raw incoming GPA matters more than before for a lot of colleges because (a) ranking systems (which colleges still care deeply about even though they might moan about them publicly) use incoming GPA in the rankings and (b) the increase in test-optional and no tests considered at all means incoming GPA is much more heavily weighted. Then Covid changed grading substantially in a lot of public schools in particular, leading to these schools where over half the class has 4.0+ and if they even calculate valedictorian (and a lot don’t), there are 100+ of them. Plus, a lot of the public schools have removed any barriers to AP classes, so kids can easily take 10-12 AP classes. Public schools aren’t getting more rigorous (as someone with kids in both, I’d argue the opposite is true), but grade inflation and the impact of the grade inflation has gone up. [/quote]

Rigor depends on what the student chooses.  But, if one child starts Algebra in 6/7 and another in 8/9, one child obviously has a more rigorous education.  [/quote]

yes, but the courses are heavily gate-kept.  There is no "choosing" courses at NCS.  You can't "choose" to take Algebra in 6th grade.  In my daughter's class there was not a single current student who took Algebra 1 before 8th grade.  NOT ONE.  The school heavily gate keeps the courses.  Then about 10 girls were allowed to take geometry before 9th grade in order to accelerate by one grade.  You could not petition or beg to be allowed into this cohort.  Parents got involved but could not sway the system--the SCHOOL CHOSE.  You were either selected or you were not.  These 10 girls were allowed to take a summer geometry course (of their own payment) and then were allowed to enroll in Algebra 2 in 9th grade.  
Math is the only subject in which girls are accelerated or allowed to choose their classes prior to APs (which have since been eliminated).  So there is now really no choice at all except in what subjects one takes as electives but there are not levels of courses with more or less rigor.  [/quote]

[b]No, you also choose the school and if you want more rigor, you choose a more flexible schoo[/b]l.  That sounds pretty terrible for really smart kids.  That doesn't sound like in the girls best interests to make really smart kids wait till 8th for Algebra.  Is that for the school's needs or the girls?    You have to assume all these girls are very smart to get into that school, so it makes no sense not to offer more.  But, we found that pretty typical at most privates when we tried to transfer our child to a private.  They said we'd have to hold our child back and they'd have to repeat math, do it privately or pay them extra for a tutor/private class.  [/quote]

Those of us with seniors chose NCS before APs were eliminated, before college admissions went TO, etc. It is an entirely different admissions landscape that our daughters are now trying to navigate. I know intellectually that there are a lot of great colleges that aren’t highly ranked. [b]However, it is hard when you think about that fact that you spent $200,000 on a high school education (which is an unbelievable education!) and your daughter is scoring in the 99% on entrance exams and the best college admit they have is ranked around 150 on USNWR. [/b]The lower NCS GPAs are not reflective of their ability, effort and intelligence. [/quote]
Can we refer back to this thread and this bolded sentence whenever someone says they aren't sending their kids to private schools solely for college admissions? That they don't care where their kids go to college, they just want their kids to have the great private education?[/quote]

Are you always unable to distinguish between one person and multiple people? That’s an unfortunate lack of sophisticated thought processes. [/quote]

Right - I’m sure you would be fine with your 1500 SAT kid attending Ole Miss. [/quote]

Ole Miss, no as I will not let my kid go down south but I want them at our state school so we can comfortably afford college and graduate school and hopefully help them with their first car and possibly house. Nothing special about the Ivy's except if you are big law, business or medicine. [/quote]

I'm curious why can't your kid go down south? I'm pretty sure Emory, Tulane, Vandy, etc. are all in the south. Seems pretty narrow minded.[/quote]

No, maybe Vandy but we could not afford it so it’s not one we’d consider.  [/quote]

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