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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I am confused about the data on here.  Kid has perfect 4.0 unweighted (so that would mean all A’s) and a ton of AP classes if weighted GPA is a 4.7. From a good Montgomery County school. And test scores are 1570, with good extra curriculars (I am going to take that to mean a leadership position and long term involvement in some activity).

And the OOS and In-state admit rates are about 10% difference (40% and 30% roughly).  Wouldn’t this kid have a decent shot?   There are posters who said kids got in with a 1360 SAT and another with a C.

I understand ED would be a surer bet, instate is better, and the kid needs to demonstrate interest, but wouldn’t RD at least be considered a match?[/quote]

I understood the public schools give a 4 for a B in an advanced class. So not necessarily straight As. I know, those of us with unweighted scores don’t get this. That is not straight a stats, right OP?[/quote]

I'm OP. Yes, straight As from MCPS school.[/quote]

This is just personal observation, but it seems like WM takes so many kids from NOVA publics and has so few OOS slots that they have higher standards from DC-MD kids than kids from other areas of the country. It’s like they don’t want to be a DMV majority/ regional school, and the NOVA part of that equation is not negotiable. They want to be a national U, so regional diversity plays a role.  So a NY or CA  (or Midwest!) kid may be more attractive than a MoCo kid.  I don’t have numbers to back that up, but it tracks with what I’ve seen.

Remember, a WM class is 1600-1700 kids. Last year, they took 66 kids from MD. The whole state, not just MoCo.

https://www.wm.edu/admission/undergraduateadmission/facts-figures/class-profile/[/quote]

This makes sense to me (unforunately, as an MCPS parent). [b]OP's stats seem good enough for OOS RD[/b] ... but maybe not from Maryland. Maybe yes from other less represented states. Ugh.[/quote]

They are certainly good enough, but just like those stats are good enough for Harvard, that doesn't mean that the student will get in.  There is just a lot of competition, so there is a certain element of luck involved.[/quote]

This. It’s a teach still. And OP has et mentioned whether or not the most rigorous box will be checked off. Also I’m not seeing stellar EVs. W&am likes to see a well-rounded applicant so looks for community service, Eagle Scout, national awards etc. grapes and Sat/Act don’t cut it alone.[/quote]

[b]Let’s not go overboard here. Most kids anywhere do not have Eagle Scout and National level awards, and they certainly are not necessary to gain admittance at W&M or at UVA, both excellent schools. Agree that being well rounded is a good thing but that can mean being a strong student plus … enjoying running and spending a lot of time babysitting … or being on the swim team and enjoying reading … or yes it can mean national science award winner … or a million [/b]variations.

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OP said "not amazing ECs" which probably means zero.  W&M wants to see stellar ECs. Period. You can be contrary all you want, but that's what they want to see.[/quote]

Maybe, but my DC is a freshman there. I would rate their ECs as decidedly below average. Based on the kids I know who are there or were accepted, I think W&M really does look at applications holistically. DC was below 50th percentile on GPA and SAT, had a couple of average ECs. However, they wrote two excellent essays and are very artistic (and submitted an optional art portfolio). And they applied ED, which I'm guessing helped a ton.

Good luck to those waiting on ED next week! I remember how stressful it was for my kid and myself.

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