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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote] Helios didn’t have anything to do with kids or gifts. Why are you using him as an example?
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He’s a Greek god flying across the sky, pulled by several animals.

The visual goes way back. 
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I can’t find any Greek or Roman gods that fly across the sky with reindeer or deer, who bring gifts to children.

Helios was the sun god. The sun is in the sky. How does Helios relate to Santa?

HELIOS (Helius) was the Titan god of the sun, a guardian of oaths, and the god of sight. He dwelt in a golden palace in the River Okeanos (Oceanus) at the far ends of the earth from which he emerged each dawn, crowned with the aureole of the sun, driving a chariot drawn by four winged steeds. When he reached the the land of the Hesperides in the far West he descended into a golden cup which bore him through the northern streams of Okeanos back to his rising place in the East.

Once his son Phaethon tried to drive the chariot of the sun, but he lost control and set the earth ablaze. Zeus struck the boy down with a thunderbolt.

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Ok. No one said Santa is an exact replica of a previous god. ??

Certain themes carry over across the years. Dude flying across the sky pulled by animals isn’t new. 
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Helios- a god. Repeated his trip across the sky daily. Young, beardless, golden hair, golden light coming from eyes. Personification of the Sun.

children of Helios: 
Achelous, Actis, Aeëtes, Aex, Aegiale, Aegle, Aetheria, Aethon, Aloeus, Astris, Augeas, Bisaltes, Candalus, Cercaphus, the Charites, Chrysus, Cheimon, Circe, Clymenus, the Corybantes, Cos, Dioxippe, Dirce, Eiar, Electryone, Helia, Hemera, Ichnaea, Lampetia, Lelex, Macareus, Mausolus, Merope, Ochimus, Pasiphaë, Perses, Phaethon, Phaethusa, Phasis, Phoebe, Phorbas, Phthinoporon, Sterope, Tenages, Theros, Thersanon and Triopas

Roman equivalent
Sol, Sol Invictus

Norse equivalent
Sól

Etruscan equivalent
Usil

Hinduism equivalent
Surya

Canaanite equivalent
Shapash

Mesopotamian equivalent
Utu

Egyptian equivalent
Ra

In the Homeric epics, his most notable role is the one he plays in the Odyssey, where Odysseus' men despite his warnings impiously kill and eat his sacred cattle the god kept at Thrinacia, his sacred island. Once informed of their misdeed, Helios in wrath asks Zeus to punish those who wronged him, and Zeus agreeing strikes their ship with a thunderbolt, killing everyone, except for Odysseus himself, the only one who had not harmed the god's cattle, and was allowed to live. After that, Helios troubles Odysseus no more in his journey.

In the extreme east and west lived people who tended to his horses in their stalls, people for whom summer and heat were perpetual and ripeful. The sun god is described as being "tireless in his journeys" as he repeats the same process day after day for an eternity. His steeds have actual wings.

Santa: old, portly. Beard, wrinkly face, glasses and pipe. One trip around the world per year. Lives in cold, snow and ice covered land. Has no kids. Gives toys to kids. Has reindeer without wings. [/quote]

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