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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]This is a huge reason why public schools are failing. There are no consequences for poor behavior. I think class sizes play a role as well as staffing. We have full grade levels struggling due to the behavior of 5-8 kids. We have parents asking teachers how to parent their kids. It is a mess. [/quote]

I think a lot of kids misbehave at school because they know they can get away with crap there that they wouldn’t at home.  Teachers ‘ ability to deliver meaningful consequences has been stripped from teachers, and school administrators who are more interested in playing politician than in acknowledging their  “in loco parentis” responsibilities, are doing little because they prioritize their own self-interest over the community for which they work.  [/quote]

THIS ^^.  I'm one of the PPs who wound up quitting due to the horrendous behavior of some of my students.  The principal and assistant principal looked at me like I had four heads when I brought the situation to their attention (they already knew about it, but continued to gaslight as if it was my fault).  They refused to call the parents because they clearly didn't want the hassle of having to deal with them.  I'm looking into teaching a private school, where kids troublemakers are not tolerated and teachers are supported.[/quote]

There is so much gaslighting in education at every level. This is why teachers are done. Oh and the [b]toxic positivity-nonsense[/b].[/quote]

what does that mean?[/quote]

I would quit teaching immediately if that was the feedback I got.

DP. Where I teach, it means something along the lines of "He wouldn't be failing/ refusing to come to school/ initiating fights with classmates/ calling you a f****** b**** if you tried a little harder to build a relationship and made your lesson plans more engaging. We know it's Thanksgiving Break but here's some PD to teach you how to do this more effectively!! Please remember to take time to connect with those around you and enjoy your time off!"[/quote]

that makes absolutely no sense. you mean that's the messaging parents give you as a teacher???[/quote]

DP.  That makes perfect sense.  This is the message teachers are given by both the parents and the administration - "It's YOUR fault if your students aren't engaged.  It's YOUR fault if they're acting up and disrupting the class.  What can YOU do to make this child behave better?"  The PP nailed it.
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I'm a parent and I don't think this at all - I think the concept of inclusivity has gone too far and I think that this litigious society has gone too far. FCPS is scared of parents suing them, so they don't allow consequences for bad behavior. In fact, at our school, the poorly behaved kids get rewarded with lunch bunch and playtime in the principal's office or conference room. When I was a kid, if a child behaved poorly, they went straight to the principal's office where they sat on a chair doing nothing until their parents picked them up. Kids were suspended for things like repeatedly pulling a girl's hair, hitting her arm, pushing her down in line, calling her nasty names. Now a victim of repeated bullying just gets gaslit and told "it's not a big deal, it's just your hair/arm/back" and they switch seats while the teacher [b](who is both witnessing and the victim herself has to leave the classroom to go cry in the hallway for a couple minutes)[/b]. We KNOW it's not the teacher's fault, and I've expressed frustration to the administration and even FCPS administration, but no consequences other than switched seats and a child scared to go to school every day, and a teacher who probably won't return next year, and I don't blame her one bit.[/quote]

Wow - you have totally nailed it.  I'm a teacher and definitely can relate to this entire post (especially the bolded.  This happens too often.).  It's disgraceful what admin expects teachers to put up with now.  Glad to hear that you, as a parent, understand what's going on.[/quote]]]

I'm so sorry you are going through this, too, please know that many of us understand and empathize with the situation you're in. You are between a rock and a hard place, as they say. [/quote]

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