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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote] You don’t seem to understand the severity of being suicidal. Weekly therapy is not enough. They need much more.[/quote]

Weekly therapy is exactly how my suicidality was treated (and went into remission). Of course, I delayed getting help until after college and grad school for fear of being treated how these Yale students were.[/quote]

That is not proper protocol and that's great if it worked for you, but that's not what works for everyone.  [/quote]

DP but I’ll also add that treating suicidality (which many people use to refer to depression with suicidal ideation) is very different than treating in the immediate aftermath of a suicide attempt. A history of an attempt is a much, much bigger risk factor than a history of suicidal ideation. [/quote]

Exactly, but in some of these situations, there was an attempt.  So, with that poster, weekly therapy, medication and other things might have been the proper treatment, but a 72 hour hold and released given how serious it can be, isn't enough for many.[/quote]

I agree--for some students, a withdrawal from school so they can attend intensive treatment is necessary for their mental health issues. But the best way to determine a withdrawal is in concern with the student, their doctors, and their parents. Some students depend on the school for health insurance, so being sent home means they lose their access to treatment at all. For some students losing the consistency of classes and the social interactions with classmates could be devastating and perhaps a shorter leave or accommodations might be more beneficial. When students have a role in deciding whether to take leave and how much to take, rather than being exiled as these students describe, they will feel more positive and hopeful about returning and that can only be a good thing for them.[/quote]

Keep in mind we are talking abt students who within the space of a couple days decided to and proceeded with an attempt to kill themselves. Their judgement and insight are impaired by their psychiatric illness. This is not a defense of yales terrible handling but some of you are grossly naive about the absolute five alarm fire that a suicide attempt is (and should be!) [/quote]

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