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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I listened to a speech by Meloni. She sounds amazing. She wants people to be proud of themselves and their culture.

That isnt fascism. We have pride parades, pride month, a pride flag. If you can be proud of your sexuality, you can be proud of other parts of your identity. She is right, people want to make you erase your identity and be told who you are. Shes right to encourage people to fully embrace their identities. [/quote]

Except the entire argument is based on a strawman. No one wants to take away her Christianity, motherhood, or feminine identity. She is saying “be proud” of these things because things she doesn’t agree with - secularism, child-free lifestyle, shifting gender and sexual identities - are “wicked” and need to be destroyed. She’s adopted a First Strike doctrine to restrict personal choice and liberties that, at its heart, is based on a series of lies.[/quote]

Unfortunately, I know people heavily involved in the ‘values’ that LGBTQ ‘inspires’. Hateful and nasty doesn’t even begin to describe it. There’s no room for tolerance of any kind because if you don’t keep up with the jargon du jour, you are bigoted, etc. This is not a tolerant group of people, sadly. It’s their way or the highway. I have always had a ‘you do you’ attitude, but I DO feel this movement does NOT. They want to be them and you have to go along with it all - their way or the highway. They think nothing of destroying lives and livelihoods over simple errors, especially if you are involved in education or entertainment. These aren’t values, this is a movement. What you are seeing in Italy is a backlash against that.[/quote]

Ok so what’s the “backlash” going to involve? State clearly what you intend to do to LBGTQ people and families. Stop beating around the bush like a coward.

Ps - don’t interact with LBGTQ folks if you don’t like their lifestyle. That’s all reactionary conservatives need to do. Instead, y’all are determined to resurrect the worst dregs of fascist ideology from history as part of your “backlash.” Why can’t you just be chill?[/quote]

If lfbtq people were more like Tammy baldwin or mayor Pete, that would go long way in smoothing out things in society.

A lot of lgbtq people also purposely go “over the top” with it. Either their voice or mannerisms or aesthetic or public behaviors.

No one complains about senator baldwin or mayor Pete on a personal level.

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Yikes. Unless you are a troll trying to stir things up, you are one scary person. Be careful of your mannerisms and public behavior, because from what you write they are clearly offensive. [/quote]

Not a troll.

Dunno what I said is that out of bounds in the vast majority of the world.

I’m a dem. I voted for Pete in the primaries.

Tons of normies were happy with how Dems were in thr 90s

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You are hating on people because of their voices and mannerisms, which bother you. WTF? Who cares? Really? If someone's personality bothers you enough to make you think you have the right to tell them to change or worse (like conservatives) take their human rights away, there is something wrong with YOU. The best characteristic one could muster for someone like that is to call them rigid. Bigot also comes to mind.

Just because you don't like people you deem "over the top" doesn't mean many others don't love and appreciate them for exactly who they are. [/quote]

I don’t want to take their rights away.

I supported right to marriage way before Obama.

It feels there is no middle ground anymore.

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