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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Also UVA has produced 55 Rhodes Scholars. ND only 20. Same with the Marshall . [/quote]

This Rhodes Scholarship thing on DCUM is too much.  Rhodes was pro-British imperialist.  This led to a pro-Protestant, Church of England bias.  There were almost no Rhodes Scholarships awarded to graduates of Catholic schools in the U.S. until the 1960s.  All scholarships went to males until the 1970s.  All-male, not Catholic affiliated UVA probably had over half of its current total before Notre Dame even got started.   The Rhodes also has historical biases.  Schools with a history of producing Rhodes Scholars (Eastern with an all male history) generally continued success, which makes them appear better by this measure than a school like Stanford.[/quote]

Most Rhodes Scholars:

Harvard
Yale
Princeton
Stanford
US Military Academy
Dartmouth
Brown
[b]UVA[/b]
Chicago
US Naval Academy

So, you're wrong about Stanford.  It's ranked 4th.  And the "all male" thing is silly -- ND was all male until the 1970s.[/quote]

My all male comment had nothing to do with UVA and ND.  It was simply to point out that a[b]ll female schools didn't have any chance to produce Rhodes Scholars until the later 1970s[/b] and coed schools also didn't have a significant portion of their graduates eligible.

Of course, the point regarding very few recipients from Catholic institutions during the first 60+ years of the Rhodes Scholarship is relevant to ND.

Regarding Stanford, I didn't say it has few Rhodes recipients.  My point is the reason it has less than half the total of Yale, a school it has eclipsed for some time in most areas (sorry Yalies), is due to the early East Coast/Ivy bias of the Rhodes.[/quote]

Which may explain why Williams has 35 to 8 for Wellesley.

UNC Chapel Hill has 44 to 24 for UC Berkeley.  UNC is a fine school, but not at Berkeley's level and hasn't been for a long, long time.[/quote]

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