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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The majority of working parents did not have COVID leave when they had to support their kids in virtual learning for 15 months while juggling careers, so teachers can deal with it.[/quote]

I see where you are coming from, but how do you want teachers to deal with it?  When they get COVID, should they use half or more of their sick leave that year, but still prepare detailed and relevant sub plans for each day they are out?  Or should they deal with it by just staying home and NOT spending hours writing sub plans while their classes have no real instruction for the week?  Or do they deal with it by just coming to work if they don't feel too bad and possibly spread Covid to students and other teachers?[/quote]
They should not be at work if they are positive for COVID. If they feel well enough to write sub plans, then they should and must be paid for that time. If they don’t feel well enough to write plans then they should just be at home resting. School admin needs to figure out a backup plan to teach material to kids while the teacher is out. The same as they would if a teacher was hit by a bus. Yes the first two days will be messy but it’s no different than the minimal instructions days before a holiday or after Memorial Day. Radical behavior changes I know, but it’s not that difficult. [/quote]
The COVID leave didn't just cover teacher illness or quarantine, it covered caring for a family member who is ill or directed to quarantine. For younger children in daycare, that could be 10 days of quarantine, which would eat up many school days if the teacher had to stay home to care for the child.[/quote]
The question I responded to was about teachers being sick, not a teacher’s child. But in the situation you describe, they would need to be on unpaid leave like many many other parents have been in the last two years. [/quote]

The good old "I have to suffer so everybody else has to suffer along with me" argument.

If you were a cancer survivor would you be mad that there was a new and better treatment for cancer out there or would you just want to punish other people because you didn't get access to that treatment[/quote]
I love with posters ramp up the hysterics. It is unreasonable to expect that unlimited COVID leave would be provided forever. Federal support for these programs have ended. You may have all the money in the world to raise taxes, but most parents do not. COVID is here to stay. That is why our original rules, quarantine guidelines, etc are changing.[/quote]

[b]If a teacher gets covid at school, they should be given leave.  If they got it from their personal life, no.[/b]  There are no rules, no quarantines, no masking  so covid is going to burn through the schools very quickly  especially given this new variant.

Any person who thinks its a good an easy job should step up and teach.

Covid is here to stay because people are selfish and aren't willing to do  basic things to help keep it under control.  Covid is miserable.  You may be ok getting it multiple times but once is enough for me.[/quote]

Lol, when you get the flu or virus do you prove to your employer that you got it from work? When someone has cancer, should they prove it was caused by something in their work environment?[/quote]

Cancer and Covid are different and both require proof to take leave.  If a teacher got either from their job, yes they should get paid leave.  [/quote]

Seriously? How the he_ _ would I know where I caught Covid? I caught it at the end of May, but I couldn’t tell you where I caught it. It could have been at the school, but it could have also been at a grocery store, a restaurant, or any other number of places.

ES Teacher[/quote]

Then, that is on you.  Some of us are still being responsible and not eating indoors and being very cautious.  [/quote]

So, go to work and teach ES kids while wearing a mask at least 6 feet apart and then go straight home? Never go anywhere else? Try to completely avoid Covid, the flu, strep throat, etc at all costs? Yeah, no thanks. I’m vaccinated and boosted. [/quote]

Why would I work as a teacher to take care of your kids when you don’t want to take care of them yourself?   I have my own kids to care for every day.  You get free child care, mine do not.  Saying you are vaccinated means nothing as vaccinated are getting Covid. It’s arrogant people like you spreading it.  You go be a teacher since it’s so safe.  [/quote]

What? PP here. I am an ES teacher. Read what I wrote again. I was responded to the PP who said if we catch Covid on the job we should get Covid leave. I said I don't know how I would know I caught it at school unless that's the only place I went and I never went anywhere else. I guess my family members would never be able to leave the house either for that matter.

I'll continue to eat indoors, go the grocery store, wherever I would normally go. I could catch Covid at any number of places. My point was that the PP before me seems to think that I should go nowhere else besides work (the school). As I said, I can't completely avoid viruses. I'm vaccinated and boosted and I'm not going to just sit at home.

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I think people need to be more cautious so we can get this under control and live our lives.  If you get Covid, then I guess too bad but don’t be crummy and bring it into schools and other places and infect te rest of us.   Being vaccinated is a cop out for justifying why you are not careful.   Common sense and precautions go a long way.  People like you suck when you make it unsafe for some of us to return our kids to in person school. [/quote]

DP here. This is not an individual level thing. If covid leave is gone everywhere, contact tracing is done, kids are expected to be in school or childcare, we cant put off medical and dental care, our elderly relatives need human contact...sure, a few of us can keep choosing to wear masks indoors, but that's not really going to stem the tide. Blaming teachers for not isolating out of school when all structural supports, mask mandates, etc are gone is really misguided.

I'm not a teacher, btw, and I would have said I was careful up until this spring. We still don't eat inside restaurants or fly, we mask indoors in public, and we prefer park playdates. But it's kind of absurd to avoid seeing your family indoors or sending your kid to camp when the rest of society has given up. [/quote]

8:10 here. You sound like you are still being careful and I wouldn’t say I’ve given up. Yes, we assess our own risk factors and tolerance and have eaten indoors, but we also choose to be a vaccinated family, wear masks in busy indoor spaces, etc. It’s not like all caution is thrown to the wind as a PP likes to believe and I’m not willing to completely isolate except for work. I could have caught Covid at school while teaching masked but I also could have picked it up at the grocery store or the car dealership when I took my car in for a recall, or anywhere really. That’s my point. It’’s not realistic to say that leave should be provided if someone catches Covid at work. If you are going to do that you may as well plan the same for other things like flu and strep throat. I don’t want to catch any of the but I have to be realistic and know that they can’t be completely avoided. [/quote]

Strep isn't airborne and basic precautions will help with flu too.  You are exactly the type of person I don't want around my family.[/quote]

Sigh.
I understand strep isn’t airborne. That’s besides the point that I won’t be able to avoid any of these 100% and should I contract one of them I am doubtful I’ll be able to tell you from where I did.

I’ll ask again. Other than never eating at indoor restaurants which basic precautions would you like me to follow that I’m not currently doing? [/quote]

I don’t care what you do as long as you stay away from my kids.  This new variant is highly contentious so it’s going to spread very quickly. [/quote]
I trust you've applied to the VA![/quote]

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