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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Also January 6th and the GOP response to it erased any moral high ground you could claim relating to violent protest. [/quote] I've really never understood this line of reasoning. Two wrongs don't make a right. We learn this as children. I can think that violent protest on 1/6 was reprehensible and also think that any subsequent violent protest that occurs "on the left" is also reprehensible.[/quote] There hasn’t been violent protest. Just because that’s how you forced birthers have acted doesn’t mean that that’s how pro choice advocates are doing it.[/quote] I am not a forced-birther. I was responding to the person who appeared to say that any member of the GOP could not claim that "violent protest" is wrong. And also possibly imply that violent protest is henceforth justified because of 1/6. I am a registered democrat who thinks that certain things are morally/ethically/legally wrong or right regardless of the political party involved. [/quote] What I meant was the GOP doesn't get to simultaneously point to protests from the summer of 2020 as evidence of moral decay and violence by the left (as one poster in this thread is indeed doing) AND declare in their national party platform that Jan. 6th was "legitimate political discourse", which they officially did in February of this year.[/quote] Helpful. That wasn't clear from your post. What you describe is certainly hypocrisy. But it remains that the logic used by the poster I originally responded to was very flawed. If I previously cheered the murder of one man as a good thing and then later said that the murder of another man was a bad thing, I would be a hypocrite. But it wouldn't make the second murder justified, or not a bad thing. [/quote] The original poster you responded to was also me. Key words were "moral high ground", i.e., positioning themselves as morally superior. Maybe you didn't see this as much as I did in summer 2020, but the GOP firmly positioned themselves as standing for law and order and apple pie and expressed their deep, deep shock at every broken window only to turn around and cheer on the violent mob in D.C. 6 months later. The problem isn't someone on the right decrying violence. It's claiming that the left is violent and they're not. It's both hypocritical and a lie, and at this point just feels like gleefully admitting they're full of it and there's nothing we can do about it. [/quote] Thank you. I think we are in agreement on the issues. The disconnect is in what the relevant issues are. Yes, the right, as a collective, is hypocritical about many things (including the one you referenced.) ALSO, there is meaningful conversation to be had about those things regardless of the hypocrisy.[/quote]
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