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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Yes, I understand the idea of having a cheap, plentiful labor force. But some are saying it’s ACB and her People of Praise or whatever that want a supply of babies for adoption is part of rationale for banning IUDs and condoms. I thought affluent infertile women just went to fertility clinics. Maybe it’s just some randos on Twitter spouting off but they are citing historic examples of white women taking indigenous and black babies. Why would they do that?[/quote]

Look, I don't know anyone who is against abortion so that their friends can adopt babies. That's just not the logic. There are many couples out there who want to adopt, but that's a side benefit, not the reason for being against abortion. I can only speak about my immediate circle of friends, which is largely Catholic, but I personally know about eleven middle class and upper middle class families who have adopted children. Some of these children have been older, harder to place children (through their teenage years) and some have been babies. Very few of the adopted children have been white. Some of the babies have been exposed in utero to various substances and the parents knew this before adopting. A few of my Catholic adoptive mom friends have Ivy degrees, btw.[/quote]

PP here. I should also add that devout Catholic families don't use IVF. It's against our faith. They might use something like Clomid to stimulate ovulation, but that's it. [/quote]

I know at least two devout Catholic families who attend conservative Arlington Diocese parishes and have had 6+ kids using IVF.

I am sure you'll question their "devoutness" and no doubt you'll question mine, since I attend a Jesuit parish and went to Jesuit schools. But most Catholics are not what you "fewer and truer" believe. I wish you'd start the schism already.

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