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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I wonder about charging Isabella, who participated in Claudia's torture, but was brainwashed herself. Like, when does it cross over from being a victim, coerced and not responsible, to being responsible for your own actions?

I read recently about the "Ken and Barbie killers" in Canada. The man was a real psychopath who tortured and killed many women. His girlfriend participated in 3-4 murders. It seems like they were in a "cult of two," like she would have never done those things if she hadn't been under his spell and abused/coerced by him.

I got so interested this past week that I read Daniel's memoir "Slonim 19." It is so crazy that these kids would do anything that Ray told them to do, like Daniel was still carrying out Ray's suggestions when he was away for entire semesters in England. Over the phone, Ray was like, "You kids should go have sex somewhere in public, and then tell me about it." And so Daniel and Claudia did, even though they were just friends who weren't hooking up.

Was this group of of kids particularly fragile and susceptible? Or maybe young people are fragile and susceptible by definition.

I wonder about so many things ...

How is Ray's ex wife Teresa and daughter Ava? Quite a feat for them to get away from him. I read that the mom will not allow Talia into Ava's life, which makes sense!! The therapy they must have needed!

Is Talia still on her dad's side? Was this whole trial just part of the conspiracy to her? I can just feel how obnoxious this young woman is, and maybe soon armed with a law degree. Can you imagine how horrible it would be to be in law school with her, or to be her professor? Shudder! But I also feel sorry for her. Did she even have a chance. Her dad must have made her into a narcissist early on.

Aside from Talia, I wonder if any of the rest of them are still on Ray's side.

In Daniel's memoir, one of the best parts is the ending, where he writes a letter to the group of them encouraging them to see the light and get out. It's very moving.

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Wow I didn’t realize Talia was in law school! Where? Is there an article with more info about her role? [/quote]

I am not sure if she ended up going to law school, but in Daniel's memoir, she was applying. Sometimes something went wrong with an application, and her dad would punish the others for "sabotaging" her. Daniel was very sensitive about not spilling other people's dirt in the book, he focuses on the things he experienced firsthand. For example, he never mentions anything about Claudia's prostitution. Claudia only appears in the book when she has interactions with Daniel. But, my impression of Talia as an obnoxious know-it-all narcissist is from the book.

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