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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Did we get it all wrong? New TJ admissions process is an act of racism against Black and Latino students (not against Asians). How so? Read this excellent article:
Making the SAT and ACT Optional Is the Soft Bigotry of Low Expectations https://nyti.ms/3IlxRwI[/quote]

Admissions are race blind. The biggest issue is the criteria that they use though is easily prepped for and many wealthy families invest tens of thousands doing exactly that to game the system.[/quote]

Same as in sports. Families spend tens of thousands for better coaching and I don't see anyone screaming unfairness[/quote]

You know the saying -  it is an eternal love if I do it and it is an immoral cheating if my neighbor does it.[/quote]

Yep, most white kids are too lazy to prep (they'd rather do sports - which is a fine pursuit also) so when they can't get into TJ, their parents throw a tantrum and label the academically-focused asian kids cheaters for prepping. Yet, they don't see a problem with their kids prepping hours on end to make a sport team. Why? Because the latter prep benefits them while the former doesn't. Then  they get behind a half-cooked up admission plan citing that it gives the Black and Latino kids a chance at admission but the truth is that plan also helps their white kids get in. [/quote]

This is such a dumb take. Kids who are 10, 11, 12 years old who are building their resume should not have to give up things like sports in order to feel they have a fair shot at admission to TJ. That’s an unhealthy attitude, not only physically but mentally. Ideas like this are why TJ has so many difficulties with mental health.[/quote]

No try again. Our asian kids do sports and have plenty of physical activities. Most of us are just not obsessed with sports in a competitive way and don't force them to practice for hours each day. I have seen parents screaming at their kids when they think that the latter are not performing to their abilities during sport practice and games. Can't imagine it would be mentally healthy for the kids either.[/quote]

PP. We absolutely agree. In sports circles, we chastise the very parents you're talking about for creating the problems that exist in our culture. There is a line that exists in both areas, and I see sports parents crossing it just as frequently as I see music parents or academic parents or whatever crossing it.

But this forum and this thread are about Advanced Academic Programs, so the ridiculous over-prep parents who are doing everything in their power to make their child appear more talented than they are are the focus of the conversation here. We can talk about the jerk sports parents on the sports thread and I promise you I'll have plenty of thoughts for them there.[/quote]

But why do you assume TJ parents are these jerk parents? I'm sure some are, but most aren't. I know in our case, I did nothing for my child to go to TJ. I never seriously considered it because we live so far and I thought it wouldn't be good for our family life, plus I thought my child would have a better chance at top colleges at our base school. There are many kids like this at TJ. [/quote]

It's an easy assumption to make when just one prep center lists 30% of those admitted as having attended their courses which cost thousands of dollars.[/quote]

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