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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]In the face of everybody in the world, it seems, doing everything they can to keep the schools open, it’s not enough for you.  You still have to come on here and complain.  So many of you are so damned selfish, thinking only of how the pandemic affects you and your family and no one else.  It’s really sad.   [/quote]

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There is a big risk to kids and adults why have underlying issues. Letting Covid spread unmitigated is a disaster even if it is fine for your family. Health care workers are burned out and hospitals are in crisis mode. Same for schools and teachers. [/quote]

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It’s disheartening how little you care about kids like my daughter, with a rare disease the compromises her immune system. She has these big beautiful eyes that light up the sky. Letting a pandemic rip through schools that her brother could bring home could kill her. Does she deserve to die because you can’t be bothered? Think about what happens to a community when there are no guardrails.

Keep kids in school but do it safely.[/quote]

I have a friend with three kids one of whom is extremely vulnerable to Covid. She is homeschooling all three this year. She isn’t going around demanding that everyone keep their kids home too or that schools meet some impossible standard of safety to accommodate her individual situation.[/quote]

You guys are horrible. She never said anything about going virtual for an extended time. Omicron will pass through quickly. All she is saying is that 2 weeks virtual in early January might be prudent. But you are too selfish to inconvenience yourself even a smidgen. [/quote]

No, you have this completely backwards. The people who are selfish are the ones who have special circumstances and expect the whole system to conform to their needs. If you really think about the collective of kids, schools should not shut down even for two weeks. For the vast majority of children, the disruption and the additional lost learning of those two weeks (after 1.5 years of closed schools!) is worse than the risk of catching Covid at school, which can and will happen at some point anyway, and not necessarily at school. Also, many parents have run out of leave and will have to find alternative childcare, which is another reason shutting schools is also not going to make a dent into the potential problem of overburdened hospitals.[/quote]

That's not how decent societies work, but this is America, so I should really stop being shocked.

I did pull her brother out early once I saw numbers; we just take the unexcused absences. We make personal decisions that I don't demand others do to mitigate our risk.

However, it's not just my kid. There are tens of thousands of at-risk people. So while you DGAF whether my kid lives or dies, I sure as heck hope you get it through your skull that when those at-risk people end up in hospitals, that impacts you. When children across the city are orphaned or traumatized, that creates long-term social impacts for our city, and therefore impacts you. When the workforce is unable to work, that impacts you.

Open-at-all-costs thinking, refusing to consider going virtual even for the three whole days before Christmas, creates ripple effects and expedites community transmission.

And when people like you say there should be no guardrails and everyone should get sick, what you're really you don't care about the immunocompromised, the disabled, the unvaccinated who could get seriously ill. It's sick and it's short-sighted.[/quote]

This is not an issue of who is the most selfish. There is room for good intentions on all sides of the issue. The fact is that public health guidance (CDC) says that schools should be open.
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Exactly. I'm the PP the poster above is responding to, and it's important to stress that the CDC, under Biden, is now where many of the social-democratic countries of Europe were last year. They now recognize that the population of children as a whole is best served by schools remaining open under almost all circumstances, and that as a society, it is worth accepting a certain amount of risk for this to happen.

That doesn't mean that kids and families who have special, high-risk circumstances shouldn't be allowed to choose alternatives (although note how European countries only allow this in cases of documented medical need) and be supported in those situations of need. But not by shutting down the system for everybody, because a government has to make policy that serves the largest number of people well and not a select few.[/quote]

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